Wago box in a wall?

[Dave 85]

Hypothetical one this
Can anyone see a reason why you shouldn't have a wago box plasterered into a wall as long as its in a safe zone

 

[Hiddo]

When you say plastered in, do you mean behind plaster board or actually encased in plaster?

 

[topquark]

Hypothetical one this
Can anyone see a reason why you shouldn't have a wago box plasterered into a wall as long as its in a safe zone

Is this a trick question Dave .... depends what's in the wago box. If it's wago's then it's technically not allowed as not an MF fitting. Just solder and double heat shrink it, jobs a good un.

 

[Hiddo]

Is this a trick question Dave .... depends what's in the wago box. If it's wago's then it's technically not allowed as not an MF fitting. Just solder and double heat shrink it, jobs a good un.

So they are not a MF fitting? Best I dust off the crimp tool........

 

[Joe S]

I thought the regs now state no soldered joints. Crimps are classed as a permenant joint though

 

[topquark]

So they are not a MF fitting? Best I dust off the crimp tool........

Not officially as yet (unless that's changed recently).

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I thought the regs now state no soldered joints. Crimps are classed as a permenant joint though

No soldered joints? Please tell.

 

[Spazz]

Wogo boxes are supposed to be MF, so there should not be an issue if they are behind the wall or not. Crimp or solder is a better deal and cheaper as well.

Why do you want to use a wogo instead of crimping and heat shrink - much cleaner finish and looks better as well

 

[Joe S]

It's what we were told at college back in 2005 when all the regs started changing. I have no reg number I'm afraid

 

[topquark]

Well 526.2 still suggests solder joints, with the proviso: that where used the design should take account of creep, mechanical stress and temp rise under fault conditions.

 

[Dave 85]

So are wagos MF or not? I don't like crimping solid core, I can nearly always pull the joint apart if I pull hard enough even after buying a new CK crimper.

And yes I mean plastered into a solid wall, let's assume the circuit is dead while the filling is done

 

[topquark]

The problem was that the fittings were not actually marked MF as required by 526.3(vi) so didn't comply. If you have one there take a peek at it.

I'd have no problem using them, other than that ... I think they're great. I prefer the lever ones to push fit, but in this case push fit would be better.

 

[Spazz]

yes wogos are MF - thats what they are claiming!

I cant see anything wrong with putting them in a wall - but why dont you put them into a box to give them a bit of air around them so if needed you can remove if needed in the future.

If you pull hard enough you will be able to pull the cable out of the wago boxes as well.


The issue is how hard you pull - there should not be any strain on the cable anyway - if your worried about strain on the cable then put clips either side of the joint to ensure that no strain is put on the cable - if you are putting strain on the cable you need to use a different type of cable

 

[Hiddo]

I wouldn't plaster a wago box in though. I wouldn't like the wet plaster to get in and cause problems.

 

[Hiddo]

I believe they are MF by the way. I was on their stand at Elex on Friday and they told me they are MF.

 

[telectrix]

it says "persil washes whiter on buses", but they don't take in washing