Wago box in a wall?

[Dave 85]

Hypothetical one this
Can anyone see a reason why you shouldn't have a wago box plasterered into a wall as long as its in a safe zone

 

[Hiddo]

it says "persil washes whiter on buses", but they don't take in washing

I think I was stood with you on the wago stand on Friday Tel. I was the one with the black fleece on. I looked at your badge and thought, I know that name from somewhere. When I walked away from the stand it dawned on me.

 

[adammid]

I always thought Wago boxes were maintenance free. Thats the whole idea of them. Also you should NOT crimp solid conductors. Therefore a wago box would be much better than crimping.

 

[Dave 85]

Right that's agreed then, they are MF, Im doing it the next time the opportunity arises. To be fair, as its plastered into a wall, noones gonna find out about it till im 80 anyway so I may as well just twist and tape.....

I agree with adammid above, crimps suck balls on solid core....and I don't even own a soldering iron.

 

[KFH]

I asked at ELEX and they said they were undergoing testing at the moment. They don't have the MF mark on them so under BS7671 they are not officially maintenance free. Having said that who is to know?

 

[DurhamSparky]

wagos in a wago box in a wall is ok...!

 

[Top Cat]

Just used my first wago's today, brilliant!

 

[Tonkatoy27]

I've never used the official wago box so wouldn't know if they have a cord grip, if they have, I would think it's fine.
I use the Hagar MF JB's and know they are fine to hide in walls but as stated, I'd be a bit worried about wet plaster ingress.

 

[Tonkatoy27]

Just used my first wago's today, brilliant!

Funnily enough, I ordered my first load today. I thought they might be easier to use in SWA galv boxes leading to lights as you can use fine stranded flexible cable with them. (apparently)

 

[LineProducts]

I've never used the official wago box so wouldn't know if they have a cord grip, if they have, I would think it's fine.
I use the Hagar MF JB's and know they are fine to hide in walls but as stated, I'd be a bit worried about wet plaster ingress.

Hagar mf state "do not cover" so no, you can not build into solid wall

 

[LineProducts]

I find it frustrating that they are still leading people to believe that WAGO are maintenance free.
Yes, the regs require a maintenance free accessory to have mf on them but the mf is not the technicality, it is the rating of the components inside.

The connectors also need to meet certain tests inside the enclosure they will be used in. wAGO have been singing the "currently undergoing testing" song since November last year. If they haven't passed yet they are unlikely ever to. I think it's time they came clean and confirmed that they do not meet BS7671 mf requirements.

Other than crimping etc, there are currently two options available for MF. Hager mf which can not be covered and LINE mf.

 

[Dave 85]

Just used my first wago's today, brilliant!

I only discovered them a couple of weeks ago, cant beleive how I got by without them. Its when you got like 6 or 7 lighting cables to put in a JB that has to fit through a 75mm downlighter hole......those were the times when I used to think "there must be an easier way"
Now there is. Did exactly this twice today infact with wago boxes.

 

[Tonkatoy27]

Hagar mf state "do not cover" so no, you can not build into solid wall

Whats the flippin point of having a MF JB that you can't hide. Are they saying they aren't MF? What a waste of bloody time. I'll just stick to crimping which like others say, is a hit and miss affair with solid stand cables. Still, I can't remember any time that I've actually used them in walls anyway, only under floorboards.

 

[Tonkatoy27]

I find it frustrating that they are still leading people to believe that WAGO are maintenance free.
Yes, the regs require a maintenance free accessory to have mf on them but the mf is not the technicality, it is the rating of the components inside.

The connectors also need to meet certain tests inside the enclosure they will be used in. wAGO have been singing the "currently undergoing testing" song since November last year. If they haven't passed yet they are unlikely ever to. I think it's time they came clean and confirmed that they do not meet BS7671 mf requirements.

Other than crimping etc, there are currently two options available for MF. Hager mf which can not be covered and LINE mf.

Please clarify the exact reason why Line products can be covered and Hagar can't. I'm confused. I checked with my biggest local wholesaler (Denmans) last week to see if he stocked LINE product, the manager didn't even know the brand name. Tomorrow I'm gonna check with Edmunsons, Devondale and Newy's, if they don't know about them you've got some marketing to do! ;0)

 

[Guitarist]

Whats the flippin point of having a MF JB that you can't hide. Are they saying they aren't MF? What a waste of bloody time. I'll just stick to crimping which like others say, is a hit and miss affair with solid stand cables. Still, I can't remember any time that I've actually used them in walls anyway, only under floorboards.

Just use the LineProducts "torpedoes" with their MF kit. (see the sponsor link to the right). Fantastic kit!

 

[i=p/u]

well ive started crimping recently and love it. quick tug and cables under no strain jobs a gooden. i do like look of line products /wago products both the same but everytime i go to order of net it seems im spending about 80 quid on 50 junction boxes.. and put it off