Wago's , junction boxes and choc blocks whats best with downlighters

[telectrix]

what about fire hoods

get squashy ones you can get through a 3" hole, or better still, not needed, so why bother

 

[pennywise]

Or just never fit normal downlights ever again

 

[LukeD]

Fire hoods.... Jesus what a mess these debates turn into !

 

[DurhamSparky]

fire hoods stink! seriously if the fire hood ever had to be utilised for what it is then the flames must be licking the ceiling and the house is a gonner any way!!

i just fir fire rated lights! simples!

 

[LukeD]

Fire hoods where a great money spinner for a time. The fear around not using them against the truth of how they really work in real life !

 

[mkoffulham]

HI Guys
what code would you give for on a pir for spotlights with no fire rating,
cheers

 

[bugsy]

HI Guys
what code would you give for on a pir for spotlights with no fire rating,
cheers

Whats that gotta do wiv wago's

 

[SPARTYKUS]

find the joists, chip plaster from under joists and about 1" to each side. fish cable from one joist to another, wire up lights, clip cable to underside of joists, tub of poyfiller, bit of rag to blend to match artex if required, jobs a good'un.

Hi telectrix

yeah...sometimes its the only way. doesn't feel good though.

Last one I did there was a plasterer in on the game too so I was spoilt, I cut 76mm holes in the board with a very nice "ck" holesaw (just big enough to get hand in), either side of joist. Then use an extension bar with an Armeg wood beaver (fnarr fnarr) to drill a hole through joist...unless youre lucky like i was and found the original sparks' set of holes. Then place small battens inside when sparky work is done and screw them in place with black phospate passivated screws sunk just below the surface, replacing the original piece of circle board the hoelsaw cut out..... Looks great and no quick and dirties.

Admittedly it was a well paying job ..... OH! and I had a spread following me !!!

If no spread I guess I would do it as described )

 

[Deleted member 14631]

I was wondering why you have to use a Wago Junction box with Wago connector when Wiring in Down Lighters with Wago Connectors or any BOX with WAGO connectors when wiring Down Lighters

 

[sjm]

find the joists, chip plaster from under joists and about 1" to each side. fish cable from one joist to another, wire up lights, clip cable to underside of joists, tub of poyfiller, bit of rag to blend to match artex if required, jobs a good'un.

Just as a thought wouldn't it be best to notch joist and fit a "safe plate" over cable? Then everyone's happy

 

[MarkieSparkie]

Notching joists from the underside contravenes Building Regulations Part A & P (EGBR 10.1)

 

[sjm]

Notching joists from the underside contravenes Building Regulations Part A & P (EGBR 10.1)

Thats a very good point.

 

[sparks1234]

I was wondering why you have to use a Wago Junction box with Wago connector when Wiring in Down Lighters with Wago Connectors or any BOX with WAGO connectors when wiring Down Lighters

Otherwise the connectors are not enclosed, which they should be

 

[sparks1234]

i use the 2" standard J/Bs, screw terms. H/R flex out to downlight. tried helacons, but old habits die hard.

Surely you dont use the old round junction boxes through a downlight hole

 

[nickblake]

Otherwise the connectors are not enclosed, which they should be

I agree plus you are required to keep the integrety of the double insulation of the cable and doing this does