Warning Labels inside consumer unit lid

[Toneyz]

and don't for get to put on danger 240 label on , they love them !

not needed

 

[davesparks]

But the warning label refers to colours to 'two versions of BS7671' , the wiring regulations certainly haven't had that reference for 100 years !

I was replying to the comment that we could return to the 'proper' colours soon, not to anything about the label.

 

[stevethesparks]

Well if the end user operates it on the test button regularly as advised to prevent the 'stiction' described by Risteard there's no reason why it won't provide reliable service, a brand new one will inevitably be slow over time if not operated regularly.

sorry but think you are grasping at straws there, you cant be relying on the end user to keep an RCD maintained. If you nailed the 3 monthly test notice on their heads, most would still not do it as it upsets the clocks around the house.

 

[Dave OCD]

I agree Steve, but replacing it after failing just one test won't change anything, the new one will become exactly the same without being operated so IMO it's just a waste of time and money. Would you give an EICR an unsatisfactory overall assessment if the RCD/s were over the permitted time on the first test only ?

 

[Dave OCD]

I was replying to the comment that we could return to the 'proper' colours soon, not to anything about the label.

Ah ok, but surely it's pretty obvious which 'proper colours' the poster would be referring to, hardly an antiquated system long gone eh ?

 

[telectrix]

RCD test procedure needs rewriting. T1...hit with hammer. T2 connect MFT and press test buttons.

 

[Midwest]

All this RCD testing; can some of the more competent bods on here, can tell me how confident I can be that my RFC mcb gonna trip, after I've been sticking nails in my sockets terminals like deranged diy'er.

 

[stevethesparks]

I agree Steve, but replacing it after failing just one test won't change anything, the new one will become exactly the same without being operated so IMO it's just a waste of time and money. Would you give an EICR an unsatisfactory overall assessment if the RCD/s were over the permitted time on the first test only ?

Apart from covering my arse and sleeping well (apart from the 03:00 pee every morning) as davesparks has said, how long will it remain operational?
It may seem over the top, but it will be your call on your next eicr or RCD test.
I would note that it failed with the recommendation that it be replaced and IMO it would warrant a C2. It had obviously been sticking, and you have no guarantee that it it will not stick again nor how soon.

 

[davesparks]

Ah ok, but surely it's pretty obvious which 'proper colours' the poster would be referring to, hardly an antiquated system long gone eh ?

My point is more that the colours have changed a few times over the years, and no doubt the same complaints have been made about returning to proper colours.

 

[Risteard]

A label which states that there are different colours used, but doesn't tell you what those colours are doesn't really help very much for someone who isn't already aware of what the colours are?

It does advise them to verify the function of each conductor though. They have then been warned to check this before working on it, so there is no real need for it to state what the colours mean (or, more accurately, what they should mean if the correct designations have been used).

 

[Risteard]

not needed

And also not correct, as the voltage is 230V!

 

[HandySparks]

My point is more that the colours have changed a few times over the years, and no doubt the same complaints have been made about returning to proper colours.

Perhaps.
You've got to admit that the current colours are pretty dire. A return to almost anything else would be an improvement.

 

[davesparks]

Perhaps.
You've got to admit that the current colours are pretty dire. A return to almost anything else would be an improvement.

Yes they are dire, but I don't think a return to brighter colours is going to happen, or be sensible.
Changing colours again is only going to lead to further confusion, particularly if black and blue were to switch roles again.

 

[westward10]

Just bring out another notice, "This Installtion Has Conductor Identification to Three Different Versions, or is that two where one maybe the new colours of the old colours before we changed to the new colours which are now old colours because we are now using the new colours which used to be the really old colours of BS7671".

 

[davesparks]

Why don't we give the USA colour scheme a go, black for live (plus red and blue for TP) and white for neutral.
I'm thinking we could have a two year trial to see how everyone gets along with it