UK Wasting electricity with electric cars?

[Bob Geldoff1234]

So over the past few years we have seen the demise of 8 foot fluorescent tubes,50 watt halogen bulbs,500 watt floodlights and making tv standby power even more tiny.
This seems to pale into insignificance when electric cars are needing at least 7kw for 8 hours.
Now I don't know about you but when I'm in the shower for 10 minutes I'm thinking this is costing me a bit at 8.5 kw.So to leave 7kw on for 8 hours is madness.It makes a joke of all the energy savings over the past few years.What do you guys think?

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[pc1966]

So you live in the city,plug your car into a lampost and a load of stupid little ----s come along and unplug all the cars.....gonna happen

To be honest I'm surprised they are not cutting off the cable for scrap metal yet...

 

[Mike Johnson]

Don't know if this has been said before, but electric cars will bring about the death of the Caravan industry.

 

[nicebutdim]

Don't know if this has been said before, but electric cars will bring about the death of the Caravan industry.

Sold.

Where do I sign up?

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[telectrix]

Don't know if this has been said before, but electric cars will bring about the death of the Caravan industry.

well that's a bonus then. no more queing behind a 20mph idiot with his shed on wheels.

 

[littlespark]

well that's a bonus then. no more queing behind a 20mph idiot with his shed on wheels.

I’m going to take that remark extremely personally!!!

At least it got wheels.... most of the cars down your way are propped up on bricks!

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[Soi disant]

So to leave 7kw on for 8 hours is madness.It makes a joke of all the energy savings over the past few years.

You have to compare that to the amount of petrol/diesel you would have used instead.

the 56kWh which has Bob so exercised is the equivalent of 5.9l of petrol or 5.7l of diesel.

I wonder how far his car goes on that much fuel....

 

[Soi disant]

That's not needed anymore... fast charging would be almost as quick... and there are LTO chemistry cells now... that can charge in like 10 mins !... In any case... this whole range myth has now been largely busted.

Have you done the sums for how much electrical power would need to be provided to charging stations to sustain that rate of charging?

 

[telectrix]

apparently the powers that bee want gas removed from all houses. so why not use the left over gas to power cars? like not lpg conversion, but natural gas in a bag on top of the car. like back in the war?

 

[Soi disant]

Well... there's no doubt that the government are reacting to what the media (and hence the general public) demand... the media across the world are screaming about greenhouse gases, pollution and destroying the planet !

Please don't say that you don't believe in man-made climate change...

Of course... there are going to be some shocks (no pun intended) ahead... like when EV owners get hit with taxes to make up for the loss of taxes on ICE vehicles.

Or higher prices for "EV electricity".

 

[Soi disant]

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He just needs a more powerful bike

 

[Darkwood]

Until we get nuclear fusion as oppose to fission then all energy sources are dirty, even batteries are still dirty given the chemicals and mining needed to source the components but the silver lining is they don't produce pollution when in use and can be recovered and recycled.

The biggest worry for nuclear fusion is going to be the global power shift, this will not be pretty but at least the Arabs are pre-empting these things and that is why they built a totally new commerce and tourist venue Dubai ... they know regular income in their oil wealth is soon to flutter away hence they invested trillions building a whole new city.

Unlimited cheap energy will solve a lot of global issues, bring water to the deserts, food to the starving and probably by accident it will fuel climate change as you cannot simply change the nature of vast swathes of sandy deserts without affecting global weather patterns... fun time ahead if we ever get there.

 

[Lucien Nunes]

Whether any of us will still be around to see large-scale commercial exploitation of fusion is moot, but it will be a good result for whoever eventually makes it work. Electric transport run from a mainly fusion public supply will make every prime mover today look like Baird's mechanical television.

Ultimately then all power sources will be fusion, either our own little reactors here on Earth or the big one 93M miles away that illuminates our PV installations. I remember when I was young, dad telling me about the early fusion experiments with Zeta at Culham. His opinion was that the Tokamak reactor was fundamentally workable but it would be many decades before technology was advanced enough to control it and simulate it. I think his words were 'you can't confine plasma using just a lot keen physicists.' Of course in those days they were going after cheap energy, not clean energy. Green hadn't been invented yet.

 

[Zerax]

Or higher prices for "EV electricity".

Interesting idea... how would you control that ? It's not as easy as policing the use of cheaper red diesel by dipping of tanks.

 

[Zerax]

Please don't say that you don't believe in man-made climate change...

Well... all we know is that the planet is changing... nobody knows exactly why. It's possible that it's due to humans and it's possible that it's another natural cycle, of which we know there have been many in the past. Or it could be due to something that we don't even know about yet...

My suggested solution to this climate change is a worldwide mass cull of humans... if we reduce the population by half from almost 8 billion to nearer 4 billion (what it was in about 1970)... then wait 10 years to see if that makes a difference... we should have a far better understanding. This idea isn't gaining much traction though...

 

[Mike Johnson]

As long as they (whoever) cull those born before 1970 not before I agree. ?