What a mess!!!!!!!!!!!

[Steve T]

Hi

Today I found a horrible mess of wiring for the heating/hot water under the box my megaflo is on. Here are some pictures.

My question is should I sort it out or leave it? Obviously it does work, but it is messy and a few cables have scorch marks from touching the hot pipes.
If I go ahead and sort it out, I'll probably put it outside the box the megaflo is on, but this would mean extending the three 3core+e cables.
What is the best way to extend these cables?
The flex cables would not need extending.

Thanks in advance for any replies!

 

[willelec]

I would use regular junction boxes to extend any cables that need to be extended and take them all into an adaptable box of some sort. 2-3 flex glands in the side of the box will get all the cables inside nicely and then use some connectors/wagos/din rail connectors to terminate everything.
No need to extend them using IP rated boxes.. you could go on for ever saying 'what if the cylinder leaks'.

 

[Steve T]

Thanks for all the replies! Are there any regs about how close t&e cables (in this case 3+e) can be to hot pipes?

 

[willelec]

If you are worried about the cables running too close to the pipes, put them in some trunking or copex. It'll only set you back a tenner or so but it'll protect them better

 

[Paul228]

If you don't fancy changing it out to a new location and was just wanted to stop water entry into the termination block. You could use some galactic water stop compound and fill the existing block with it.

 

[Steve T]

If you don't fancy changing it out to a new location and was just wanted to stop water entry into the termination block. You could use some galactic water stop compound and fill the existing block with it.

I'm planning on moving what is there to a new location, hence the need to extend to cables. Actually, the risk from water wasn't something I really thought about, but its a good point.

 

[Paul228]

Best of luck with it all and enjoy your season in the premiership

 

[Toneyz]

You're right what a mess reminds me when I was a Q.S. for the last company I worked for with washing lines of flex across airing cupboard Boss seemed to think that I was too picky. The pump and tank stat can be reflexed however the Honeywell valves are pre-flexed and can only be extended .Have you got a wider photo to see all of the airing cupboard cables ?Can you reroute the cables anywhere defiantly as posted above if mounted on floor IP adaptable box with compression glands at least.

 

[Steve T]

You're right what a mess reminds me when I was a Q.S. for the last company I worked for with washing lines of flex across airing cupboard Boss seemed to think that I was too picky. The pump and tank stat can be reflexed however the Honeywell valves are pre-flexed and can only be extended .Have you got a wider photo to see all of the airing cupboard cables ?Can you reroute the cables anywhere defiantly as posted above if mounted on floor IP adaptable box with compression glands at least.

Once I'm finished, the only thing on the floor will be an ip rated jb to extend the 3core+e cables, and possibly the pump cable (the rest will reach the new location), and then the equivalent of what is on the floor now will be outside the box.

 

[telectrix]

if it's only been fitted a few months ago, complain and get the cowboys back to do a decent job.

 

[Toneyz]

if it's only been fitted a few months ago, complain and get the cowboys back to do a decent job.

Very good point Telectrix

 

[Steve T]

if it's only been fitted a few months ago, complain and get the cowboys back to do a decent job.

The plumbers who did the boiler change did not do any of the electrics shown in the picture, they were done about 10 years ago when the house was built. But they put in the filter. I did get a gas safe certificate from the install.

 

[Octopus]

Whilst the current set up isn't 100 % desirable what is actually likely to go wrong.... So you could leave it

Tin hat on

 

[Toneyz]

I would use regular junction boxes to extend any cables that need to be extended and take them all into an adaptable box of some sort. 2-3 flex glands in the side of the box will get all the cables inside nicely and then use some connectors/wagos/din rail connectors to terminate everything.
No need to extend them using IP rated boxes.. you could go on for ever saying 'what if the cylinder leaks'.

I think members are saying IP boxes not for this reason but they can be drilled and compression glands can be fitted regular junction boxes are ok but the cable going into it would need to be secured.

 

[Toneyz]

Whilst the current set up isn't 100 % desirable what is actually likely to go wrong.... So you could leave it

Tin hat on

if not disturbed not a lot however if it is regular use i.e. airing cupboard terminations could be vibrated loose.

 

[Octopus]

Hum ..... Exactly, or a water leak possibly.