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What fuel will your vehicle be using

  • Diesel

    Votes: 21 55.3%
  • Petrol

    Votes: 3 7.9%
  • Electric

    Votes: 9 23.7%
  • Hybrid

    Votes: 3 7.9%
  • Other

    Votes: 2 5.3%

  • Total voters
    38
Getting rid of the reliance towards oil is political and to shift the reliance from the Arabs to the US who are big on the fracking side. No one gives a ---- about the environment its all about power, the shift to EV's is slow as Governments don't have a way to tax the cars and the loss of revenue from fuel duty will ht them hard especially if everyone decided to have an EV.

61% (the highest in Europe) of the price of fuel goes to the Government, if VAT and TAX was that high there would be riots but we bend over and take it hard as we are conditioned to accept it and without tallow.........
 
It is an interesting question to pose and given how slowly it is taking to adapt and adopt some of the alternative technology out there and make it a viable transport alternative to what we currently use and then it will have to fit in to our current working pattern. How will a customer react when you turn up to do a job and need to charge your vehicle so you can get home. With a lot more manufacturers committing to alternative fueled vehicles can the technology move fast enough to change our current habits

As an example about 20 years ago a company called Silent Power was wound down the factory in Runcorn was closed and the assets were sold at auction. They were at the leading edge of battery vehicle power at the time

Germans pull plug on Britain’s batteries - https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg15020320-700-germans-pull-plug-on-britains-batteries/

I went to the auction and was talking to one of the guy's that worked there and one of the reason's for the closure was due to the big American oil companies lobbying the congress and senate to prevent a law going through that would have given battery vehicles an advantage over the gas guzzlers and thus obviously reducing the oil companies profits and clout

All the batteries that Silent Power built in Runcorn were moved to RWE in Germany and put into storage for future use when battery powered vehicles became viable and they could resurrect the technology. With the way technology moves forward I often wonder if it paid off for RWE and they ever used the battery technology of the 90's they put into storage or whether something with even better storage and usable capacity was developed
20 years ago we were obviously not ready to embrace a new transport technology will we be in 5 years
 
It is an interesting question to pose and given how slowly it is taking to adapt and adopt some of the alternative technology out there and make it a viable transport alternative to what we currently use and then it will have to fit in to our current working pattern. How will a customer react when you turn up to do a job and need to charge your vehicle so you can get home. With a lot more manufacturers committing to alternative fueled vehicles can the technology move fast enough to change our current habits

As an example about 20 years ago a company called Silent Power was wound down the factory in Runcorn was closed and the assets were sold at auction. They were at the leading edge of battery vehicle power at the time

Germans pull plug on Britain’s batteries - https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg15020320-700-germans-pull-plug-on-britains-batteries/

I went to the auction and was talking to one of the guy's that worked there and one of the reason's for the closure was due to the big American oil companies lobbying the congress and senate to prevent a law going through that would have given battery vehicles an advantage over the gas guzzlers and thus obviously reducing the oil companies profits and clout

All the batteries that Silent Power built in Runcorn were moved to RWE in Germany and put into storage for future use when battery powered vehicles became viable and they could resurrect the technology. With the way technology moves forward I often wonder if it paid off for RWE and they ever used the battery technology of the 90's they put into storage or whether something with even better storage and usable capacity was developed
20 years ago we were obviously not ready to embrace a new transport technology will we be in 5 years

Interesting, you will of course know about the General Motors EV1 and the documentary from 2006 Who Killed The Electric Car?

Anything that anyone does in big business and via any Government commitment is not for our, the plebs benefit but for the benefit of someone higher up the food chain.
 
OK........... I would seem that the Politicians have made up their minds that:

diesel is the fuel of the devil,

petrol isn't much better

and

electric vehicles are the future, not considering that can we charge all 20 million vehicles and how they be charged and there is no real viable way to dispose or recycle the batteries.

So looking into your crystal ball what do you think will be powering your vehicle in 5-10 years?
They are starting to use recycled ev batteries to use as home storage batteries, which can be charged up by whatever.. off peak, solar etc. So that answers at least two of your concerns..
 
It’s simple when everyone has got Electric cars the price of electric will go up, you will no longer get Economy7 or 10 it will be one thing tariff for all that will be a lot more than we pay now, smart meters will not give a sh?t about your kettle or toaster they will just rap it up when you plug your car in, as your car will tell the gov that it’s plugged in you will get billed an extra 20% plus VAT. As for road tax it will change to pay per mile and if going into a city it will be by the foot so we are all fu?ked the only answer is A1
 
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