What is happening today with all these COWBOY Electricians?

[LED Lighting]

I have read several posts on here now in the last half hour and all of which claim to be an electrician and got the very basics wrong or completely cant be bothered to do anything they have to!

These so called scheme providers really need to get off their A*** and start looking at who they are giving a licence to kill to before they kill someone!

 

[Tiny Spark]

There are several apprenticeship's available for the Domestic Electrician, but sadly, very few jobs in that sector of the industry. If no one is employing, then no one can do.

Cheers............Howard

Thats what I mean, From what I understand most apprentices are now taken on by colleges but dont actually have jobs.
More like the old YT schemes and the college trys to find them positions.

But obviously this is not so easy when people are not recruiting.

I was chatting to some contractors the other day about this and most of them said their companies will not take on apprentices even though they would be in a good position to do so.

Its a shame really.

 

[Guitarist]

Why spend money on an apprentice when there are 18 day courses to send someone on, followed by minimum wage "because they're lucky to have a job"?
It's more than a shame, it's a disgrace.
It's no wonder these inexperienced guys just "give it a go" in peoples' homes, and charge what they can get away with. Afterall, there's always a forum to fall back on....
Maybe the people who endorse the quick courses should employ these guys in their own homes.

 

[trev]

Tim there was a youtube video publicised here a few weeks back from a training centre. The guy was singing the praises of his 5WWs so I asked him if he would be willing to have one of them working in his house.
Comments were disabled for the video about ten minutes later.

 

[Guitarist]

Tim there was a youtube video publicised here a few weeks back from a training centre. The guy was singing the praises of his 5WWs so I asked him if he would be willing to have one of them working in his house.
Comments were disabled for the video about ten minutes later.

I remember that trev. These newly trained guys sound fantastic, I have to say.

 

[LeckyBill]

Not all that have done short courses are cowboys, so just haven't got the time to spend two years at college

 

[trev]

Not all that have done short courses are cowboys, so just haven't got the time to spend two years at college

None of us are saying that Bill. What we are saying is that some are kicked out of the training centres 5 weeks later and think they're qualified.
There are some "graduates" of these courses that realise they still need to learn a lot then go and make sure they know it, it's them who earn a bit of respect

 

[Guitarist]

Not all that have done short courses are cowboys, so just haven't got the time to spend two years at college

Not cowboys, just inexperienced in many cases and not skilled in the various areas needed to work in peoples' homes. How often do we have to carry out carpentry, chasing, plastering, board lifting, plus a host of other jobs essential to "just doing domestic"?
Every day is the answer.

 

[LED Lighting]

I think it's the OP who is the cowboy.

Says the one who does not test a newly installed CU and can't work out why an RCD is tripping under load and not when load is disconnected.

its not me who is the cowboy mate!

 

[LeckyBill]

Not cowboys, just inexperienced in many cases and not skilled in the various areas needed to work in peoples' homes. How often do we have to carry out carpentry, chasing, plastering, board lifting, plus a host of other jobs essential to "just doing domestic"?
Every day is the answer.

it ain't rocket science like, ive always been good at diy so it came easy not all are as up on it

 

[ipf]

it ain't rocket science like, ive always been good at diy so it came easy not all are as up on it

Boy o boy :nonod:

 

[daveb1]

What you also have to take into consideration is the people who post questions on here some of witch are trying to improve themselves an standard of work, just think about the ones that don't even bother to research something they just don't care!

 

[ipf]

What you also have to take into consideration is the people who post questions on here some of witch are trying to improve themselves an standard of work, just think about the ones that don't even bother to research something they just don't care!

Oh there's plenty come on here simply because of that.....they can't get it to work.

 

[LED Lighting]

Just seen another MCB tripping on lights. Clearly LN fault and would rather post on here than get his b****y tester out of his van.
even if he ain't a spark how hard is it to disconnect all cables in 1 lighting point and see if that trips then work that way till they find the fault.

yes this is the cowboy way but there's another cowboy

 

[GLENNSPARK]

My own favourite today has been "Pizza Oven" for those not familiar with it a DI has been tasked with installing one, 3.3kw I think. Once it gets to a certain temperature the RCD trips. He wondered if replacing a 30ma RCD with a 100ma would solve his dilemma

needless to say..he got a grilling over it..

 

[GLENNSPARK]

it ain't rocket science like, ive always been good at diy so it came easy not all are as up on it

must be why your from the black country then...
as all the lights keep going out...