When did neutral at the light switch become standard practice?

[Deleted member 26818]

First it was an earth, now they want a neutral as well!!

 

[telectrix]

... And they twist all the CPCs together and put them in 1 bit of sleeving.

that is my biggest pet hate after plumbers.

 

[Octopus]

Hello all,

I am in the process of buying a house built in 2002 and I am trying to find out when it became standard practice to run neutral to light switches. The reason being I may look at having smart switched installed and having this already in place would make the job so much simpler.

Thanks

There is no way to determine this except take every switch off and check ..................

 

[Gavin John Hyde]

... And they twist all the CPCs together and put them in 1 bit of sleeving.

My damn pet hate is that, you get to a a fitting or socket etc and need to re terminate and have to first unravel the damn cpcs..

 

[Octopus]

My damn pet hate is that, you get to a a fitting or socket etc and need to re terminate and have to first unravel the damn cpcs..

Even worse at a CU change when they are all like this ................

 

[Ian1981]

Testing the ring final circuit when both cpc’s at the board are covered by one piece of sleeving and they are twisted together!!!!
Arrrgggggghhhhhhh!!!

More of a eicr issue tho

 

[chris gray]

In any domestic job, wether old or new I always bounce the feed round the switches.
Why would you want to fit any dangly light when it’s 3 plate?

 

[littlespark]

There is no way to determine this except take every switch off and check ................

There is another way. Drop the ceiling rose cover and count the twin-and-earth’s
Scrub that idea. I forgot about the old J701 joint box under the floor trick.
Take off the switches. Not a difficult job but please follow all relevant safety guidelines

Not all smart switches use a neutral. Lightwaverf being one example. So it might not matter

 

[mickfred]

Am about 10 post later .i hate 3mm earth sleeving g on everything from single 1mm to squeezing it in section over a 3core swA . Does my head in buy a few different sizes and fit the correct one not just what you have left in the bag which is always 3mm

 

[Des 56]

Its not all one way trafic
There is also argument that can be made for making a permanent live available at ceiling connections when neutrals at are at switches

 

[JimmyS]

Ah, thank you all for your replies. It seems I will have to wait and see and then decide what is the best plan of action!

 

[telectrix]

time will come when it's standard practice to drop a 3 core/E to the switch. best of both worlds. N at both points.

 

[Andy78]

Even worse at a CU change when they are all like this ................

Had a TPN board to do yesterday like that

 

[telectrix]

i can understand cpc ends being twisted to ensure all are well connected in the terminal (separate sleeving for each) but to twist the lotand put into 1 sleeve is ,IMO, criminal , same with twisting L and N solid core into a terminal. hate it.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Every so often, I find the round JBs with the CPCs round the outside of the box, twisted together.