Anyone got a solid answer on what the legal responsibilities are of building management companies when it comes to certifying their part of an installation, both in common areas and with their supply to individual flats?
I've run into several cases with EICRS in the latest dash for PRS compliance where I've asked my client (the landlord) to seek information from the BNO - and the management company clearly have no clue about anything. These have been in larger properties, purpose built as flats in the last 20 years - where the DNOs responsibility fairly clearly stops at their incomer....
It's often not practical to test the riser cable - even if it's possible to get access to the main fuse, and sometimes even that is difficult....
Some buildings have small CUs in riser cupboards, with 63A MCB or similar protecting 16mm T&E to the flat (with no way to tell where routing is), others come in armoured from a basement with individual main fuses, but no way to isolate anything....
Then there are the intercoms, often separately powered from the main building, often in 12V, but not always....
Is it just me, or does the new law seem to leave a loophole where the communal areas never need to be inspected or checked for compliance?
One today I was looking at in SE London, built less than 20 years ago - and in the communal meter cupboard (locked but with a standard fire door key which every flat has to read their meter)...I find this mess...
Might have found why their intercom doesn't work!
And yes that is 2 feeds at 230V at the top of the transformers...
And one of their emergency bulkheads fitted like this in the main stairwell
Other than the usual BS7671 compliance (or NOT), is there any specific legal framework or is this a loophole?
A reasonable solution to me would be that every property with multiple dwellings in should have to provide an EICR of their communal electrics to all their leasehold owners on a similar basis to that now required for the flats themselves...
I've run into several cases with EICRS in the latest dash for PRS compliance where I've asked my client (the landlord) to seek information from the BNO - and the management company clearly have no clue about anything. These have been in larger properties, purpose built as flats in the last 20 years - where the DNOs responsibility fairly clearly stops at their incomer....
It's often not practical to test the riser cable - even if it's possible to get access to the main fuse, and sometimes even that is difficult....
Some buildings have small CUs in riser cupboards, with 63A MCB or similar protecting 16mm T&E to the flat (with no way to tell where routing is), others come in armoured from a basement with individual main fuses, but no way to isolate anything....
Then there are the intercoms, often separately powered from the main building, often in 12V, but not always....
Is it just me, or does the new law seem to leave a loophole where the communal areas never need to be inspected or checked for compliance?
One today I was looking at in SE London, built less than 20 years ago - and in the communal meter cupboard (locked but with a standard fire door key which every flat has to read their meter)...I find this mess...
Might have found why their intercom doesn't work!
And yes that is 2 feeds at 230V at the top of the transformers...
And one of their emergency bulkheads fitted like this in the main stairwell
Other than the usual BS7671 compliance (or NOT), is there any specific legal framework or is this a loophole?
A reasonable solution to me would be that every property with multiple dwellings in should have to provide an EICR of their communal electrics to all their leasehold owners on a similar basis to that now required for the flats themselves...