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Marie-Claire

I was asked to look at a property today for an opinion, the property is owned by a landlord and has tennants currently living there, it has not had a periodic for many years. The consumer unit is an old re-wireable fuse one. I found a lot of things in the property that didn't comply, no earth bonding on the pipes, the cooker socket was spured off a double socket that wasn't easily accessible and looked bodged, there is a leak in the bathroom which runs through one of the kitchen lights, there is arking in all of the upstairs lights, the shower pull cord was hanging off and the tennant claimed she had a few mild shocks off the livingroom sockets (brass plated) and it never tripped. The re-wireable fuse box had no earth to which the tennant called out her supplier and they put in an earth. These examples were amongst other things that didnt comply I had a word with the landlord and told him a full test and inspection was needed and i'd reccommend a re-wire as the wiring was in poor condition. The landlord was not happy that i suggested this and claims that he cant afford to have the work done. The tennant has young children and insists that the landlord will not take necessary action. I fear that the tennants safety are at risk. Is there anything i need to do, i can't stop worrying about the children :(
 
Like it or not, i'm afraid you are in the middle of this dispute now!! It could get very legal, very quickly, so if i were you get everything down in writing on your findings, ....not just a blanket statement saying the electrics are dangerous. Issue those findings to the landlord, he is the responsible person regarding this installation and the person that paid you a fee for your work. If you feel it necessary to issue a ''danger notice'' then do so, attaching said notice to your report.

Then for now walk away, and get on with your normal Business, ....and Wait!!
Perhaps he was expecting Marie-Claire to just give it a quick look over and just ok it (like a cowboy would)...shows you how wrong some folk can get it dont it...........
 
Its a heartlesss way to look at the situation but if its that bad I wonder why someone would pay money to live there. Try not to get emotionally attached otherwise you may find your doing a lot of work there for free. Been there done that.........
Report on what you found, listing faults in importance to be fixed.
Might be worth just to suggest a rewire at some time, but not to make a big thing of it as it is a scary big and expensive upheaval for everyone concerned.

If you really want to issue a notice do it but I guess you wont hear from him again so dont spend to much time on it.
Personally... sounds like the lanlord is a rip off merchant and I would steer well clear.
Anyone would think landlords cant afford the work that clearly needs doing to their properties in these situations...the words cant and wont spring to mind here...............
 
Maybe the landlord is forgetting that remedial work/a rewire would reduce the amount of tax he would have to pay...... or maybe he's not even paying tax on his income.

Scum landlords need a visit from the tax man
 
Now I may be wrong with modern legislation on this but DNO’s had draconian powers with an unsafe installations a few years back. Total disconnection being one. If total disconnection comes in to force the local authority is obliged to re-house the tenants. And again if I remember right it’s at the expense of the defaulting landlord.

Contact the DNO, but first talk to the tenant, and then with solicitors with her. Don’t just send her off with your report, it will need explanation!

I admire you for trying to do the right thing.
 

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