Which Electrical Course? I'm NOT going be an electrician

[dontknowitall]

I do not wish to become an electrician!!! Nor do i want to be an apprentice. I'm a plumber and happy with that!!!

I've had a trawl through some threads and looked on a few training websites but can't really find what I'm looking for. I'd be grateful for some ideas please!

My wife and I are thinking of buying a small house to renovate. Between us we can do plumbing, flooring, dry lining, plastering, carpentry, tiling, decorating, curtain making, etc, etc. (We can't/won't do building work on the structure or drains and stuff like that - just internal work.)

I passed the Part P Defined Scope about three years ago but have forgotten most of it as I've used my electrician when required during my plumbing jobs (anything to do with the consumer unit or installing new cables, switches, etc.) (I can wire and diagnose/fix faults on S-Plan and Y-Plan systems.)

However, despite the above I'm looking for a short electrician's course to learn and re-learn about wiring, first fix, replacing the consumer unit, the boring earth bonding stuff (I have a mega meter but forgotten how to use it) and so on. I believe that the LABC can test and sign off work or if not I think my electrician will probably be happy to test and do this for me.

Which course would you recommend? Any answers gratefully received!

 

[Des 56]

It may be a better option for you to employ an electrician. with you assisting installation where possible
Rewiring is usually easier with a spare pair of hands and it needs only one man to know the ins and outs,so getting co,operation may be easier than going it alone

You would gain experience that will make any future work less haphazzard than if you jump in at the deep end

It could be combined with one of the fly by night courses,the theory gained would then be better understood when combining it with practical experience
Further projects would become less of a gamble on safety

Its not rocket science,but neither is it something that can be compared to painting and decorating
Using the wrong paint doesn't have the potential for fire or injury or manslaugter
Best to walk before running, even if it costs more for the stroll

 

[dontknowitall]

i believe this is a little course to take..
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to be honest mate,i dont doubt your a decent bloke and tradesman ,but your part of the problem,not the solution.

To be honest mate, I doubt you're a decent bloke ...

 

[alarm man]

To be honest mate, I doubt you're a decent bloke ...

im not mate,never claimed to be,im a shallow hal

 

[topquark]

im not mate,never claimed to be,im a shallow hal

Nah, just a realist mate!

 

[OllieNotts]

A part P cert surely means he can start re-wires all by himself after a course with "a bit of theory thrown in"?

 

[Arnold Layne]

A part P certificate only means that someone is certified ( not Competent) to undertake certain work in domestic environments. It was the government's way to regulate the DIY situation, nothing more. Some very competent electricians ( commercial) do not have Part P certs but I know who I would trust to rewire my home ( and it is not Part Ps)

 

[supasparxs]

Forgive me if I'm mistaken
but a plumber or kitchen fitter can certify minor works, like a spur for a boiler or even wiring a kitchen.
I didn't think they could carryout a rewire?

by the way.
I got a plumber to relocate and upgrade my boiler, and I did the plumbing for the en-suite, changed all the boilers etc.

Sparks are the brainy plumbers at the end of the day........

 

[dingledong]

dont know it all do you know a short course where i could brush up om my plumbing skill i work for an agency where the plumber is going on on holiday for 3 months so i would like to take over from him till he gets back
1 so he has a job to come back to
2 for the extra wages
3 its all domestic
i'd be grateful for your input

 

[pmac10]

unfortunately dontknowitall, i'm not a domestic spark so can't advise you, but i would like to point out to people, that dontknowitall is a plumber who specialises in oil fired heating and has gone to great lengths to help me in the past on the plumbers forum, but as an afterthought, those 6 week wonder courses may be better suited to someone like yourself, rather than someone making the switch from, i dunno, bank clerk???

 

[dingledong]

if thats a dig at me i have asked the question in all sincerity as the facts 1 2 and 3 are true . i was hoping he could genuinely help me

 

[dingledong]

well either your the same as the people who were unhelpful to you and now you can see there point
but i have not said anything against you and the question i asked for the reasons i asked are as genuine as yours was to this forum so please do not tar me with the same brush as others
but if you dont want to help what can i do

 

[pmac10]

Dingledong, i had no idea you used to be a bank clerk:rofl:, so no, it was not a dig at you, just speaking up for a good lad

 

[dingledong]

i still am a bank clerk i come on here to learn electrics and one day i'll be able to earn as much as you lot instead of nicking of the bank i mean its only 3 grand a week . when i',m a sparky i'll be a millionare

 

[sparky1502]

Can't help.

Perhaps that's won't.

i will help. having travelled round the folly of electrical education for the last 4 years i feel qualified to say this but the course u are looking for simply does not exist. a course for domestic wiring and changing fuse boards and the like it just does not exist because this is what most apprentices and mate should be doing day in and day out at most you would perhaps learn abit about 2 way switching but for the most part i learned about 3 phase stuff, power generation, single and 3 phase motors, earthing arrangements. i hope this saves u some time sifting through the dribble that is further education. you might find the reason for the some what rash response is the quick courses we as sparks find are an insult to the trade we practice and take pride in.

 

[alarm man]

i will help. having travelled round the folly of electrical education for the last 4 years i feel qualified to say this but the course u are looking for simply does not exist. a course for domestic wiring and changing fuse boards and the like it just does not exist because this is what most apprentices and mate should be doing day in and day out at most you would perhaps learn abit about 2 way switching but for the most part i learned about 3 phase stuff, power generation, single and 3 phase motors, earthing arrangements. i hope this saves u some time sifting through the dribble that is further education. you might find the reason for the some what rash response is the quick courses we as sparks find are an insult to the trade we practice and take pride in.

id like to think sparks are changing db's etc not apprentices and a mate,be it domestic or industrial its all spark work,its all electrical