Who needs qualifications

[lister]

Check out photo;
"Well", said the customer "I've done all the electrics myself, I've spured off that socket to feed those other THREE DOUBLES in the kitchen"
and then used words like "part wot?"
part P sir;
I Quoted and left...............

If you look closley at pic you can see the socket front is cracked to the live where he's chipped his way through!!!.

Numpties you gotta love em!

 

[Had8Lives]

either way, the socket face plate needs replacing.

 

[CUDABOY]

the bottom line is that what he has done works..................................<or been like this for ages> or "ive never had any problems with it".....and thats the problem, spurs in 1.5mm2 overloaded circuits etc, people rarley see anything wrong till it goes wrong.part p is a crock, its just introduced a wave of quote "qualified" but ill experianced folk into a field already full of people like numpty mentioned in post.please dont think i think all part p/no previous exp are dangerous,the fact your reading this means you give a s@@@ and on here to learn and gain info,we all gotta start somwhere,no one was born with a megga in their hand! as long as they sell it in b and q etc the longer it goes on.........

 

[Guest123]

And there in lies the problem CUDABOY as long as the diy superstores are allowed to sell cable, trunking, sockets, switches etc part p will always be worthless. Unless the law is changed to stop this then instances of work like you mentioned will always be found.

 

[bahco]

And there in lies the problem CUDABOY as long as the diy superstores are allowed to sell cable, trunking, sockets, switches etc part p will always be worthless. Unless the law is changed to stop this then instances of work like you mentioned will always be found.

agree with you there 100%, i think when your are a member of a part p scheme you should receive a card which entitles you to purchase gear from the likes of b&q etc, then joe public cant buy any gear off the shelf.

it will never happen, about a year ago i was in b&q and walked passed them how to leaflets they do, on was how to wire a consumer unit!

 

[Buzz Lightbulb]

 

[sivoodoo]

That diagram is wrong too, lol, the live pin is actually the live terminal, or we would have some pretty odd looking sockets!

 

[gunner]

If it wasnt so serious it would almost be funny

 

[WarrenG]

That diagram is wrong too, lol, the live pin is actually the live terminal, or we would have some pretty odd looking sockets!

Well pointed out! .........lol Your dead right and the plot thickens!

 

[Buzz Lightbulb]

Well, very good. But you've still all missed other (at least 3) mistakes/errors with the diagram.

Answers on a Postcard to...

Prize for the winning entry will be an English Dictionary. ;-)

 

[Guest123]

Seems like we're all getting a bit carried away here lads!!!!

 

[Buzz Lightbulb]

You're not kidding! But who started it in the first place?!

 

[4x4 mark]

come on think about it if you take the top offov a plug the fuse is on the right and your looking at the back of it so as it plugs in its still on the right as you havnt turned it over or owt.
by the way what do you call a collective group of sparks.....







an arguement!!!!

 

[Sparky_Ben]

4x4 Mark I notice your from durham do you need an apprentice by any chance I have just started my 2330. Worth a try?

 

[CUDABOY]

SHOCKING!!!! and thats not the muppet getting zapped when he funks it up!!! i was in there,at tills somone asking advice on cable choice or somthing,assistant replies "yes, that ll do it" goverment making a mockery of it,i heard screwfix owned by b n q?

 

[wattsup]

Actually bq are owned by the screwfix group, not the other way round

Lol, you can spur 10000 sockets, so long as the cable is protected accordingly

Nothing wrong with a several sockets protected with a 5amp breaker, or a spured outlet, for the sake of argument a garage, outbuilding/ workshop. 3 twin-sockets, no problem. Problems occur because the cable and or the breaker exceeds demand.

Not good practice, but any halfwit could argue the supply cannot exceed the current carrying capacity of the cable because it is protected by the breaker.

This is normal cheap options and loads and loads of outbuildings are protected thus. There is nothing whatsoever wrong with it, in the real sense of

I get a few 'breakdowns' especially kitchen, ring main. Toaster on, washer on, kettle on, grill on. I've had also had oil filled elec heater on....my 32a breaker trips sometimes...Ahh, it would with 40amps or so eventually, sometimes instant, sometimes over a few minutes depending on whose breaker. Now try and tell the customer..err your load exceeds the breaker

But this is brand new (sometimes it is)...surely they have wired it up wrong then?

In effect they have, but it is by no means 'wrong' although they have skimped and cowboyed it. The circuit is protected correctly