why is there no earth

[lofts]

Im waiting for acceptance in the training forums but whilst I do I have a question. Ive always been told to earth things for example sockets that are not standard plastic but shinny nickel, I know you can get away with just using the lugs on a back box and the screws which are used to pull the socket face plate tight to the metal back box if the lugs are fixed however I still but an earth cable from the earth terminal on this back box to the earth terminal on the back of the socket juse because its good practice imo.

Whats baffling me is these new spotlights Ive just got from screwfix, they are Robus and the instructions say DO NOT EARTH! my initial thoughts were that this was a mistake but upon further investigation there is no earth terminal at te fitting just a Live and Neutral. My question is why dont the have an earth terminal as surely this is wrong. They are chrome so surely an earth is needed. Tempted to ring Rombus up and ask why but thought I would try here first as one of you guys will probably no why?

cheers

 

[telectrix]

1.0mm is usually enough. bear in mind that there the T/E probably feeds all the lights on that floor or the whole house .

 

[Silly Sausage]

I could have done with one of those Line jobs the other day.
Have to own up to using a 30A round JB, cringe!
I did crimp the ends of the flex though, which eased the pain slightly.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

anything worng with 30A terminal heavy junction box for this job as ive got a couple in the van

well...will it fit through the hole you cut out for the fitting?

 

[chrish_1977]

Never go on what people tell you, always read the instructions, the person telling you could be wrong

 

[D Skelton]

If it was you would you just cut the cpc's of or should I just choc block them for good pactice.

From memory 412.2.3.2 essentially says that you have to run and terminate a protective conductor to each accessory. I can't remember the exact wording but this is not just good practice, it is a requirement. That is presuming the installation is not under the supervision of someone who will ensure that these fittings will never be changed to class 1 pieces of equipment.

 

[Octopus]

This thread has the hallmarks of a member recently ejected, with a very simlar name and location.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

From memory 412.2.3.2 essentially says that you have to run and terminate a protective conductor to each accessory. I can't remember the exact wording but this is not just good practice, it is a requirement. That is presuming the installation is not under the supervision of someone who will ensure that these fittings will never be changed to class 1 pieces of equipment.

means of earthing (CPC) at every point on an installation (initial verification)....or words to that effect damion..

 

[Silly Sausage]

This thread has the hallmarks of a member recently ejected, with a very simlar name and location.

At least this time he's admitted he's a trainee.
See Lofty in t'Arms.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

At least this time he's admitted he's a trainee.
See Lofty in t'Arms.

is this Lofty not looking down from a `lofty perch` then Archy?..lol...

 

[Lee Marshall]

the ashley 501 jb's are much easier to work with than the small round jb's i find

 

[hotfingers]

Hi sorry to bother you archi new round this site and don't no how to get around here yet . I posted a problem a few days ago and you replied can you get bak to me pls,many thanks hot fingers ..

 

[Silly Sausage]

Hi sorry to bother you archi new round this site and don't no how to get around here yet . I posted a problem a few days ago and you replied can you get bak to me pls,many thanks hot fingers ..

Eh????

 

[tom79bmth]

i hope they accept you in the training forum you need it

 

[Des 56]

Eh????

It's either this thread http://www.electriciansforums.net/e...l-electrical-forum/73854-help.html#post734622 or the new member has taken a shine to you Archie

 

[Richard]

Im waiting for acceptance in the training forums but whilst I do I have a question. Ive always been told to earth things for example sockets that are not standard plastic but shinny nickel, I know you can get away with just using the lugs on a back box and the screws which are used to pull the socket face plate tight to the metal back box if the lugs are fixed however I still but an earth cable from the earth terminal on this back box to the earth terminal on the back of the socket juse because its good practice imo.

Switches maybe, but I hope thats not how your terminating sockets...!?