wireing in a loft

[Edd]

Having to deal with a complaint, that a tennents house has recently been rewired and their not happy with the cables in the loft just laying under the insulation. now im sure when any of us do a rewire only sometimes do we clip them, but this persons saying they should be protected by conduit or drilled through the joists!!
any input would be greatfull as Ive gota reply to a stinking email
thanks
Edd

 

[Deleted member 9648]

I cant believe the excuses being found on this thread for a poor job.....lofts shouldnt be used for storage?...there isnt one in the country that isnt full of junk.
Cables in accessible roof voids unsecured and run in a way liable to result in mechanical damage is poor practice regarless of 'regs'. It doesnt take much longer to do it right. Personally I always look in the loft in order to judge a job,if the visible wiring in the loft is cr#p the rest of the job probably is as well.

 

[Edd]

I cant believe the excuses being found on this thread for a poor job.....lofts shouldnt be used for storage?...there isnt one in the country that isnt full of junk.
Cables in accessible roof voids unsecured and run in a way liable to result in mechanical damage is poor practice regarless of 'regs'. It doesnt take much longer to do it right. Personally I always look in the loft in order to judge a job,if the visible wiring in the loft is cr#p the rest of the job probably is as well.

so you would roll off all the insulation from the joists to find them, then clip along each and every one then reinsulate the loft! nothing like laying stretched out with your face and belly laying in insulation trying to get a clip in! ile stick with clipping where needed and pushing into the eves.

 

[Newsome3]

so you would roll off all the insulation from the joists to find them, then clip along each and every one then reinsulate the loft! nothing like laying stretched out with your face and belly laying in insulation trying to get a clip in! ile stick with clipping where needed and pushing into the eves.

It's what we have to do 5 times a week
we have two in loft
do it once do it right

 

[GT1]

Yep have to say.
It's not pleasant rolling back 30,40,50 year old loft insulation. I hate it.
But I always do it and clip cables to joists wherever possible.
Exception was last week on a bathroom fan install where the loft was filthy, damp, and very very low angle on roof, so no head clearance.
I did advise the client how and why it was done that way. Plus I left enough slack in the cable for it to be tidied up later.
I always work on the premise that nothing stays out of sight forever. For all I know the client may renew the loft insulation the week after I complete the work and be up there working around my cables...

 

[Deleted member 9648]

so you would roll off all the insulation from the joists to find them, then clip along each and every one then reinsulate the loft! nothing like laying stretched out with your face and belly laying in insulation trying to get a clip in! ile stick with clipping where needed and pushing into the eves.

Nothing wrong with cables tight to the edges of the loft...out of harms way. But most of the points wont be at the edge and will need to get across somehow.
Either pull back the insulation and clip to the sides of the joist....or use running boards above the insulation. Either way,there's no excuse for throwing cables across the top because you cant be bothered.What else cant you be bothered to do right?

 

[telectrix]

but, how then do you secure the running boards when they are on top of a foot of insulation?

 

[BlueToBits]

Does a loft that's been insulated so deep that you can't determine the joists to safely move around not then become classed as an inaccessible void? Are trip hazards and damage risks caused by cables laying on the surface of such insulation now not irrelevant in much the same way as cables may lie unsupported on a concrete sub-floor? I'm all for making a good job of things, but where's the regulation that says cables must be clipped to joists under insulation?

 

[telectrix]

there;s only 1 way to insulate a loft. kingspan or similar under the roof, between the roof rafters. all this chucking mega thicki fibreglass in top of everything is just a cheap, quick sap to government directives to stop the planet dying HA>HA. stopping cows farting would put man's puny efforts well into the shade.

 

[Spudnik]

I havent read the whole thread, however, i do believe BS7671 requires cables to be fixed sufficiently so that they do not cause damage to themselves by their own weight.

I think.