Wiring assembly on chandelier

[mills82]

Hi all. Hoping to get some advice.

I have received a chandelier consisting of five lights. I have to assemble the fitting however there are five exposed pairs of live and neutral wires that are to be connected to individual live and neutral wires that will ultimately connect to the house.

How should I connect the five live and neutral wires? Do all five lives connect to the solo live and likewise for the neutral? Or do I daisy chain the five together, connecting live to neutral for each light?

Thanks in advance!

 

[westward10]

Can you show a pic.

 

[mills82]

Pic attached (hopefully).

 

[Strima]

At a guess they should have been connected by the manufacturer.

Ideally you need 6 way lever Wagos to connect them together but IIRC the largest they do is 5 way???

 

[Madocks]

6-Way Push-Wire Connector 773 Series Pack of 50 | Cable Connectors | Screwfix.com - https://www.screwfix.com/p/6-way-push-wire-connector-773-series-pack-of-50/22261

 

[Octopus]

That's appalling that they sell a product like that .............

 

[westward10]

Zero thought gone into that. Is it brand new?

 

[Madocks]

Doesnt look new if you zoom in on the cables

 

[telectrix]

6-Way Push-Wire Connector 773 Series Pack of 50 | Cable Connectors | Screwfix.com - https://www.screwfix.com/p/6-way-push-wire-connector-773-series-pack-of-50/22261

THEY WON'T DO FOR FLEX.you could use a 5 port and a 2 port lever type for each.or the dreaded choc block. it's accessible by dropping the fitting and it's what the manufacturer would use if they hadn't any fire nuts handy.

an alternative would be to twist and solder, then put in choc block. all the browns in one, blues in another, E's in 3rd. then the fixed wiring in the other side.

 

[Rpa07]

You’d think that they’d provide ferruled ends - you’d be able to use a push fit 6 way then.
It certainly doesn’t help the ‘end user’ usually being us the electricians who have the tools to adapt and engineer stuff to make it work - what chance do the ‘little people’ have.
Choc block it is then - ‘head held on shame’ cough cough! (I’ve got a cold!)

 

[westward10]

Second hand fitting.

 

[Madocks]

THEY WON'T DO FOR FLEX.

Why not?

 

[Spoon]

You’d think that they’d provide ferruled ends - you’d be able to use a push fit 6 way then.

I like this idea best.

 

[westward10]

Why not?

They are not suitable for fine stranded conductors.

 

[Strima]

Why not?

Fine stranded conductors are difficult to get into them without some of the strands poking out unless you use ferrules.

 

[telectrix]

even using ferrules, it's almost impossible to get fine strand flex into push-fit wagos. the flex just buckles up. DO IT ONCE DO IT RIGHT.