wiring downstairs light circuits

[driverman]

As some of you know, I'm doing a first fix for family member. I now know that in a modern house its best to do loop method of wiring from switch to switch due to modern day down lighters and light fittings only accepting one cable. I did have a thought though (bear with me) as there are 3 x cupboards on the ground floor of using flush joint boxes in each one to wire the various light switches to etc. I would still loop each LED down lighter together though. so all j/boxes would be accessible for test inspection and maintenance. Anyone done similar? thanks

 

[DPG]

Working on the bigger projects, i'm probably more upto date with modern devices than most. But i'd still feel confident saying that the vast majority of British homeowners that purchase new builds or want/need a rewire to their property won't be thinking of any of the fancy gizmos you have in mind, and certainly not at every light switch in the house.... Trends take a long time to materialise in the UK and forgotten about a damn sight quicker...lol!!

I agree, it's early days yes. But it's the way things are going like it or not. Daz

 

[Baker1988]

Thats okay if you have a small 20 amp lighting JB, if 1mm2 is used and the downlight hole big enough to get the JB out if required, nothing wrong with it though of course.

I usually use the ashley 17th edition coffin boxes for when i put spots in they fit through the hole of the the small spots nicely
Like these ones J501 Hager (Ashley) 17th Edition Junction Box 16A |

 

[telectrix]

i prefer line products kit. much quicker and a bit cheaper also.

 

[Rockingit]

Working on the bigger projects, i'm probably more upto date with modern devices than most. But i'd still feel confident saying that the vast majority of British homeowners that purchase new builds or want/need a rewire to their property won't be thinking of any of the fancy gizmos you have in mind, and certainly not at every light switch in the house.... Trends take a long time to materialise in the UK and forgotten about a damn sight quicker...lol!!

Agreed that it takes time to move a mountain (so to speak) but I think you'd find the front counters of a wholesalers an eye opener!

 

[driverman]

I usually use the ashley 17th edition coffin boxes for when i put spots in they fit through the hole of the the small spots nicely
Like these ones J501 Hager (Ashley) 17th Edition Junction Box 16A |

these boxes then, need not be fixed to the joist?

 

[Octopus]

these boxes then, need not be fixed to the joist?

I'd like to see you try that through a downlight hole!

 

[driverman]

I'd like to see you try that through a downlight hole!

Yes , thats why I'm asking. I would of thought this day and age floating j/boxes were a thing of the past. i can see that i'm wrong though. Hence electricians designing the installation to suit. ie loop in via switches.

 

[Octopus]

Yes , thats why I'm asking. I would of thought this day and age floating j/boxes were a thing of the past. i can see that i'm wrong though. Hence electricians designing the installation to suit. ie loop in via switches.

These have cable clamps - buy a couple and try them, they are ideal in certain situations

 

[DPG]

The regs say (correct me if I'm wrong) that floating junction boxes need to have strain relief at the cable entry points. Daz

 

[trev]

I'd like to see you try that through a downlight hole!

Gyneacologists manage to put things in and out of much smaller holes. One of them was reckoned to be able to wallpaper the front passage through the letterbox

 

[driverman]

The regs say (correct me if I'm wrong) that floating junction boxes need to have strain relief at the cable entry points. Daz

Ok understand......So when doing recessed LEDs say with 2 x cables at each fitting, are fittings designed to terminate both cables direct or best via j/box at each and every fitting?

 

[trev]

Some of them have the terminations for 2 T&Es eg JCC.

 

[jaypp]

The regs say (correct me if I'm wrong) that floating junction boxes need to have strain relief at the cable entry points. Daz

That is one that doesn't make sense to me. You would have thought it more likely for a fixed JB to need strain relief if cables pulled?

 

[jaypp]

Some of them have the terminations for 2 T&Es eg JCC.

Scolmore even have provision for 'loop'

 

[Octopus]

Ok understand......So when doing recessed LEDs say with 2 x cables at each fitting, are fittings designed to terminate both cables direct or best via j/box at each and every fitting?

Or try the Wago lightbox and wago connectors