worth reporting?

[Andy B]

I carried out a condition report today. The door bell is on its own circuit and feeds a transformer mounted next to the ccu the earth has been pulled out of the T+E. The transformer doesnt need and earth so would you record this fault?

 

[Guitarist]

They must have been desperate for copper to pull it out of the cable. In your opinion, does the cable need a cpc for protection?

 

[Guest55]

The transformer doesnt need and earth so would you record this fault?

why is it a fault if the transformer doesnt need an earth ?

 

[SirKit Breaker]

Is it class 2, if so then no problem, if its class 1, then C2 or fix it.

 

[Adam]

IMO, the cpc is for class I equipment, not the circuit wiring. If the wiring was to be damaged, it would short to the neutral and operate protective device.

 

[HandySparks]

If you're sure the transformer doesn't have an earth terminal, and it's the only load, and it's a short run, then no. It may be against the letter of the regs, but it's highly unlikely that anyone's going to try to extend the circuit and require a CPC.

 

[Andy B]

Well I thought every cable needs an earth but being up against the board it seemed a bit too pedantic to report it. The installation is only a few years old and I never found any other faults.

 

[oldtimer]

Listen for 600mm of cable replace it as it will be quicker than reporting it

 

[Octopus]

So you replace the cable and the transformer doesn't have an earth terminal, what are you going to do next?

If its class 2 then no comment, nothing to note, IMHO

 

[oldtimer]

If he is that concerned that the cable should have an earth then chuck a bit of cable in I have seen this many times but the earth in the CU is connected and in the transformer it is folded back

 

[somersetsparks]

I quite often see these done in 1.00mm2 2 core flex, No fault to record.

 

[oldtimer]

I quite often see these done in 1.00mm2 2 core flex, No fault to record.

Or with 2 core bell wire

 

[Guest55]

Or with 2 core bell wire

bell wire connected into the CU ?
i hope not , its not even rated for 230v.

 

[Risteard]

The Wiring Regulations do not require the cable to incorporate a cpc. However a cpc must be brought to every point of wiring, and so it is a non-compliance. However as it does not give rise to danger in its current state you may feel that it does not warrant a mention on your Report. That is your decision to make.

 

[Darkwood]

Cut a 15amp connector in half, take the plastic off, glue the remaining 1 terminal connector under the incoming cover and fit earth symbol...... simples! :devilish: