unsatisfactoy ECIR report opinions welcome pleaese

[matthew999]

Hello all,

I have just got back an EICR report thats unsatisfactory. It has 2 x c2 flags, one is for insuficiant RCD and the other is for supplimentary bonding. We have been told that a new consumer unit is needed and will cost 600 plus VAT. Does this seem right? Googling i came across this forum and one quote i found relating to RCD is

Regs. are not retrospective so all that can be done is 'recommend improvement' - C3."

So why have i got a c2 for this?

Also im a little confused about bonding and what it means so any help on 8.4 c2 would also help. Attached is the report

thanks in advance

Matt

 

[bill01803]

Looks like you want RCBOs on all bathroom circuits and one for sockets that can be used outside and jobs a good un.

 

[HappyHippyDad]

£600 Sounds like a reasonable price for an RCBO board. An RCD will save your life, or the lives of your tenants so is a very good idea and (lack of) would be a C2 in many situations.

 

[littlespark]

You are right in saying the regs are not retrospective, but ultimately it is the individual testers opinion what it is a C2 rather than a C3.

For modern consumer units, it can just be replacement of a regular circuit breaker to an RCBO which would satisfy…. So maybe the board is a bit older, and not so easy.

From what I hear, £600 for a board change in London sounds like a good deal….. if not a little on the cheap side.
Maybe too cheap.??

 

[SJD]

Industry guidance gives a C2 for portable/mobile equipment that can be used outside and missing RCD protection. Typically this means downstairs sockets e.g. by the front/back door, in the garage, etc. Assuming there are such sockets that can be used for outdoor equipment with no RCD protection, the C2 is correct.

Supplementary bonding is required for bathrooms unless certain conditions are met - one of which is all the bathroom circuits have RCD protection. Again, missing RCD protection e.g. for the bathroom lights, can then get you a C2 for the missing bonding, and often it can be fixed by adding the RCD protection.

As mentioned, it may be possible to add RCD protection to the existing consumer unit, or it may be better to replace the whole unit. If replacing it, consider installing an all-RCBO unit, which will be a bit more expensive than a dual RCD using, but much more resilient. A fault on one circuit will only trip that circuit, rather than several circuits. A photo of the existing consumer unit might enable more comments.

 

[Dustydazzler]

Supp bonding is old hat now as most bathrooms I come across that had 4mm supp bonding 90% of the clamps are missing or hanging off

In all reality if you don't have any RCD protection on your sockets then I would opt for the board change and go full RCBO

 

[matthew999]

Thanks for all the opinions it's very reassuring. I should add that this is a holiday let in the lake district Cumbria, but I'm based in London. I will try and get a photograph of the consumer unit. Cheers Matt

 

[swaRRR]

Thanks for all the opinions it's very reassuring. I should add that this is a holiday let in the lake district Cumbria, but I'm based in London. I will try and get a photograph of the consumer unit. Cheers Matt

Is the £600 supply and fit? If so, mega cheap.

 

[Dustydazzler]

Is the £600 supply and fit? If so, mega cheap.

Agree , even a 'mates rate' Rcbo board swap with new tails / main earth I would struggle to do it for 600 notes

If sparks are out there do full Rcbo boards swaps for £600 then they are fools

 

[matthew999]

Is the £600 supply and fit? If so, mega cheap.

Yeah 600 plus Vat so 720 all in.