PAT Tester broken but i can use megger?

[chris day]

Hello guys

my seaward PAT tester has given up the ghost, i have some small PAT jobs coming up and was thinking short term of being able to just use my multi function meter.

R2 test on class 1 equipment using low voltage ohm meter
Insulation resistance testing with leads

Trying to think what other limitations i have by just using my multi function test instrument?

 

[The Ghost]

I know I can use my Kewtech DL65 for PAT. But I have to switch it into PAT mode. Does the megger have that?

 

[PEG]

I'm not certain what the current PAT testing consists of,but if the tests are possible using a calibrated MFT,i would assume it was OK.

There are earth continuity,polarity and IR tests,so an MFT would cover these. It is not a statutory requirement,so as long as any certification you provide,matches the testing you have done,all is well.

I was told.a long time ago,that you could offer PAT testing,as a purely visual only examination,providing the certification,stated this. Obviously,this does not example due diligence,too thoroughly,but would be legal.

 

[westward10]

The only thing your mft won't do is the high current earth bond test. You would also have to link out the live and neutral for the IR and why not invest in one of these.
https://www.screwfix.com/p/kewtech-portable-appliance-tester-adaptor-box/1434g

 

[DPG]

OP - do the items you are checking actually need any testing? Most small appliances these days are class II and may only need inspection. Remember, the phrase 'PAT Testing' is misleading.

Also bear in mind the HSE guidance on the inspection/testing of equipment in low risk environments - there is a document available.

A lot of people are surprised about how little actual testing is needed.

 

[mhar]

As Westward 10 saysyou will miss the high current earth bond test, you will spend ages pratting about trying to get good continuity.
There are frequently Seaward Supernova Plus's for sale on ebay for ridiculous money, I bought another the other day for £25.22 delivered. Cracking tester if a bit chunky

 

[DPG]

If it's only a short term fix he may not need the high current earth bond test.

 

[chris day]

I have this exact device.. ill dig it out the testing bag

 

[oracle]

Many handheld PAT testers only produce 200mA “Soft” earth bond current. BTW, Portable Appliance Tester refers to the test meter being portable not the appliances ranging from handheld to fixed!

 

[DPG]

Many handheld PAT testers only produce 200mA “Soft” earth bond current. BTW, Portable Appliance Tester refers to the test meter being portable not the appliances ranging from handheld to fixed!

To be accurate, PAT is a non existent phrase. The correct terminology is ISITEE.

Portable is irrelevant as you say.

 

[westward10]

I find the abbreviation ISITEE mildly irritating

 

[Pete999]

I find the abbreviation ISITEE mildly irritating

Why is that Westy, I find PAT Testing very irritable Testing twice, Portable Appliance Testing, Testing, almost as bad as "I Megered the install", when we all should know Megger is a Trade name NOT a test procedure.

 

[westward10]

I find abbreviations irritating in general but the appearance of ISITEE is particularly annoying.

 

[Pete999]

I find abbreviations irritating in general but the appearance of ISITEE is particularly annoying.

Yeah know what you mean Mate, unfortunately that's what we are given to work with, annoying for those who know the difference.

 

[DPG]

I know what you mean westy, but it's got to be better than PAT testing. That phrase perpetuates the myth that it is only portable appliances, and that is only about testing - when we all know that inspection is the big part of it.