Electric underfloor heating fixing methods

sparkyork · Apr 2, 2015

Hi all, not posted for a while so her goes...

tomorrow im installing 30m sq of loose electric underfloor heating cable.

im not new to installing the stuff but do much prefer the matt style system.

With it been such a big area I want to make sure it doesn't start lifting when it's sat for a few days before it gets self levelled over the top.

I've got a ck telecoms cable style staple gun and I'm thinking do using this as it's into tile backer board so shouldn't squeeze to hard on the cable, and I'd consider ufh cable to be stronger than bt cable?

thoughts or experiences appreciated

cheers

rich

Leesparkykent · Apr 2, 2015

http://www.thermogroupuk.com/underfloor-heating/vario-electric-underfloor-heating/vario

sparkyork · Apr 2, 2015

Looks pretty good, however it's getting laid tomorrow so not an option unfortunately

davesparks · Apr 2, 2015

Double sided carpet tape then heating wire then scrim tape over the top is how I normally do it

telectrix · Apr 2, 2015

don't use staples!. seen a plumber do that on 2 jobs. both failed within 6 months.

telectrix · Apr 2, 2015

duct tape. geordie's the expert with that.

Leesparkykent · Apr 2, 2015

Aluminium Foil Tape Silver / Aluminium 96mm x 45m | Building Tape | Screwfix.com

sparkyork · Apr 2, 2015

Cheers chaps I'll stick to tape then, couldn't get hold of any staples anyway lol

davesparks · Apr 2, 2015

The advantage of scrim tape is that the self levelling compound will penetrate it and surround the cable properly, in theory you could get air pockets either side of the cable where other tapes are used. I haven't a clue whether this will really be a problem or not, but I don't chance it.

Geordie Spark · Apr 2, 2015

davesparks said:
Double sided carpet tape then heating wire then scrim tape over the top is how I normally do it

Wot!!! ............ No Gaffer Tape????

mg_smile:

It's not that much different to gaffering half a dozen microphone leads across a stage really. :happy:

davesparks · Apr 2, 2015

Geordie Spark said:
Wot!!! ............ No Gaffer Tape???? mg_smile:

It's not that much different to gaffering half a dozen microphone leads across a stage really. :happy:

Ah well you see it's like this, I don't touch none of that filthy noise-boy / hum-scum nonsense. It's not without good reason that they are known as the plumbers of the entertainment industry!

Geordie Spark · Apr 2, 2015

telectrix said:
duct tape. geordie's the expert with that.

NO Tel ........ NOT Duct Tape - It's Gaffer Tape!!

There's a difference and it's all explained here-->> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Matte black gaffer tape

Gaffer tape (also known as gaffer's tape, gaffing tape, gaff tape[SUP][1][/SUP] or gaffa tape[SUP][2][/SUP]) is a heavy cotton cloth pressure-sensitive tape with strong adhesive properties. It is widely used in theater, photography, film and television production, and industrial staging work.
While similar to and often confused with duct tape, it differs in the composition of both the backing, which is made from fabric as opposed to vinyl or other plastics, and the adhesive, which is more resistant to heat and allows easier removal without damaging the surface to which it was adhered.[SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][4][/SUP][SUP][5][/SUP]
The precise origin of the name is unknown, one theory being that it is named for thegaffer (chief lighting technician) on a film crew.[SUP][6][/SUP] When cables are taped down on a stage or other surface, either to prevent tripping hazards or conceal them from view of the audience or camera,[SUP][7][/SUP] they are said to be gaffed or gaffered.[SUP][citation needed][/SUP]

davesparks · Apr 2, 2015

Geordie Spark said:
NO Tel ........ NOT Duct Tape - It's Gaffer Tape!!

There's a difference and it's all explained here-->> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Matte black gaffer tape

Gaffer tape (also known as gaffer's tape, gaffing tape, gaff tape[SUP][1][/SUP] or gaffa tape[SUP][2][/SUP]) is a heavy cotton cloth pressure-sensitive tape with strong adhesive properties. It is widely used in theater, photography, film and television production, and industrial staging work.
While similar to and often confused with duct tape, it differs in the composition of both the backing, which is made from fabric as opposed to vinyl or other plastics, and the adhesive, which is more resistant to heat and allows easier removal without damaging the surface to which it was adhered.[SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][4][/SUP][SUP][5][/SUP]
The precise origin of the name is unknown, one theory being that it is named for thegaffer (chief lighting technician) on a film crew.[SUP][6][/SUP] When cables are taped down on a stage or other surface, either to prevent tripping hazards or conceal them from view of the audience or camera,[SUP][7][/SUP] they are said to be gaffed or gaffered.[SUP][citation needed][/SUP]

Neither of which should be used for sticking cables down.

In the civilised world we use LE-Mark mag tape or mag tape extra. It's BBC specification for sticking cables down dontcha know

shanky887614 · Apr 2, 2015

Geordie Spark said:
NO Tel ........ NOT Duct Tape - It's Gaffer Tape!!

There's a difference and it's all explained here-->> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Matte black gaffer tape

Gaffer tape (also known as gaffer's tape, gaffing tape, gaff tape[SUP][1][/SUP] or gaffa tape[SUP][2][/SUP]) is a heavy cotton cloth pressure-sensitive tape with strong adhesive properties. It is widely used in theater, photography, film and television production, and industrial staging work.
While similar to and often confused with duct tape, it differs in the composition of both the backing, which is made from fabric as opposed to vinyl or other plastics, and the adhesive, which is more resistant to heat and allows easier removal without damaging the surface to which it was adhered.[SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][4][/SUP][SUP][5][/SUP]
The precise origin of the name is unknown, one theory being that it is named for thegaffer (chief lighting technician) on a film crew.[SUP][6][/SUP] When cables are taped down on a stage or other surface, either to prevent tripping hazards or conceal them from view of the audience or camera,[SUP][7][/SUP] they are said to be gaffed or gaffered.[SUP][citation needed][/SUP]

ive always got a few rolls of gaffer tape and a hundred foot or so of paracord, it comes in very useful.

need to lash something together then thats all you need

Geordie Spark · Apr 2, 2015

davesparks said:
Ah well you see it's like this, I don't touch none of that filthy noise-boy / hum-scum nonsense. It's not without good reason that they are known as the plumbers of the entertainment industry!

Right ye Southern poofter lampy boy!!

That's the last time ye'l be gettin' a "like" or a "Thanks" from me!!!!:laugh:

The HOURS I've lost hanging around waiting for you prima-donner jessies to get yer trusses up in the air before I can get my lads on stage to stack 'n' rig the back line you wouldn't believe!!