Hi all.
I am collecting evidence for a report on the current 'strategy' and trust given to the competent person schemes by the Communities and Local Government Committee (CLGC).
I am not sure if you are aware, but the committee reviewed it a couple of years ago, and the conclusion from the committee was that it needed to be changed significantly. Unfortunately, the minister (who made the decision in Govt) chose to keep the status quo much to the committee's disbelief.
With the 18th edition looming and licensing finally rising to the attention of the JIB and ECA (basically the NICEIC are the ones against licensing and the ECA's relationship with the NICEIC is a problem), there are plans to change things in the next couple of years.
I am representing a group of electricians that feel that the CPS have taken from the industry and have not put enough back into it, and the industry has weakened since the introduction of Part P. What's missing is industrial representation.
There is an opportunity for an industry lead voluntary body, meaning created by electricians. Where every member invests and is responsible for its running, a bit like a co-op organisation. The idea has been delivered and has been very warmly welcomed. UKAS has confirmed that they would recognise such an organisation and so it could even be considered as the newest competence person scheme in the long list of competent person schemes. But it would be nothing like what we have now.
Getting rid of Part P cannot be the advice to the govt from this industry, but we can show them how capable we are of working to the requirements of Part P.
So what stats do we need..
well the govt loves surveys, and stats and evidence etc.
We need to collect evidence from the industries electricians to get a larger overview of how the industry is at the moment.
Clearly the viewpoint of those that approached initially is that we are looking for change..so most of our own evidence is from negative backgrounds.
So please, if you have good things to say about the CPS, or you know a colleague that does, then please provide some feedback too.
I could comb the internet looking for positive and negative opinions, but then we would have to request permission each time to publish them in the report. So for now I would like to say that..
'every response to this thread is an offer of evidence for use, to put into the report'
If you have previously glorified or moaned before then you can put a link in here to YOUR previous post.
Anything you would like to offer?
How many QS' are there to electricians in your workplace?
Is the person arriving at the customers front door a competent person, or is the work signed off by a competent person later? or maybe even remotely?
What should the annual cost be?
Do you feel they have supported you in your work?
Was your assessment sufficient?
Have you ever seen work carried out by a registered installer poorly?
Should there be a separate assessment fee to member fee?
Have the CPS improved public awareness of Part P?
Have they saved your bacon?
Anything you want guys, good and/or bad.
But please note.. a post such as "the schemes suck" doesn't really provide sufficient grounds for evidence and is more of an attack.
cheers
widdler
I am collecting evidence for a report on the current 'strategy' and trust given to the competent person schemes by the Communities and Local Government Committee (CLGC).
I am not sure if you are aware, but the committee reviewed it a couple of years ago, and the conclusion from the committee was that it needed to be changed significantly. Unfortunately, the minister (who made the decision in Govt) chose to keep the status quo much to the committee's disbelief.
With the 18th edition looming and licensing finally rising to the attention of the JIB and ECA (basically the NICEIC are the ones against licensing and the ECA's relationship with the NICEIC is a problem), there are plans to change things in the next couple of years.
I am representing a group of electricians that feel that the CPS have taken from the industry and have not put enough back into it, and the industry has weakened since the introduction of Part P. What's missing is industrial representation.
There is an opportunity for an industry lead voluntary body, meaning created by electricians. Where every member invests and is responsible for its running, a bit like a co-op organisation. The idea has been delivered and has been very warmly welcomed. UKAS has confirmed that they would recognise such an organisation and so it could even be considered as the newest competence person scheme in the long list of competent person schemes. But it would be nothing like what we have now.
Getting rid of Part P cannot be the advice to the govt from this industry, but we can show them how capable we are of working to the requirements of Part P.
So what stats do we need..
well the govt loves surveys, and stats and evidence etc.
We need to collect evidence from the industries electricians to get a larger overview of how the industry is at the moment.
Clearly the viewpoint of those that approached initially is that we are looking for change..so most of our own evidence is from negative backgrounds.
So please, if you have good things to say about the CPS, or you know a colleague that does, then please provide some feedback too.
I could comb the internet looking for positive and negative opinions, but then we would have to request permission each time to publish them in the report. So for now I would like to say that..
'every response to this thread is an offer of evidence for use, to put into the report'
If you have previously glorified or moaned before then you can put a link in here to YOUR previous post.
Anything you would like to offer?
How many QS' are there to electricians in your workplace?
Is the person arriving at the customers front door a competent person, or is the work signed off by a competent person later? or maybe even remotely?
What should the annual cost be?
Do you feel they have supported you in your work?
Was your assessment sufficient?
Have you ever seen work carried out by a registered installer poorly?
Should there be a separate assessment fee to member fee?
Have the CPS improved public awareness of Part P?
Have they saved your bacon?
Anything you want guys, good and/or bad.
But please note.. a post such as "the schemes suck" doesn't really provide sufficient grounds for evidence and is more of an attack.
cheers
widdler
