Removing socket outlets

Bobby34 · May 26, 2019

Hi guys and girls,

A client is moving their kitchen into another room that currently has a few sockets in it.

The sockets are currently on a ring final circuit that covers every socket in the house.

They've asked me to add sockets for the new kitchen so I am going to run a new kitchen circuit most of which can be done in trunking as it will be behind the units going in.

My question is am I able to replace the faceplates of the old sockets not being used/covered with a blanking plate and use maintenance free wago's inside so the ring for the rest of the house is not affected? (3 sockets I think that will end up behind units)

Thanks in advance

Bobster · May 26, 2019

Andy78 said:
The larger boxes have cradles for the connectors but the small ones don't, is a possible reason ? Not sure.

Not seen the small units before, but do they offer cable restraints? This is one of the main factors in a MF connection.

Bobster · May 26, 2019

Andy78 said:
The larger boxes have cradles for the connectors but the small ones don't, is a possible reason ? Not sure.

Not seen the small units before, but do they offer cable restraints? This is one of the main factors in a MF connection.

Andy78 · May 26, 2019

Rob said:
Not seen the small units before, but do they offer cable restraints? This is one of the main factors in a MF connection.

They have the rubber fins on cable entry to hold the cable sheath firm like the larger box, but not the moulded plastic "stalls" that the connectors live inside.
The smaller boxes are a through box with cable entry each of the short ends rather than the one end.

Baddegg · May 26, 2019

Andy78 said:
They have the rubber fins on cable entry to hold the cable sheath firm like the larger box, but not the moulded plastic "stalls" that the connectors live inside.
The smaller boxes are a through box with cable entry each of the short ends rather than the one end.

For lighting circuits I believe, never used em though....

Andy78 · May 26, 2019

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suffolkspark · May 26, 2019

I think the only thing that makes it mf over the little one is it has the cable tie slot.... it's all a load of crap, I use whichever is most suitable at the time

Deleted member 9648 · May 26, 2019

Andy78 said:
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I don't think either of those are stamped with MF. The smallest MF ones I've seen are around 4x4" and appeared identical to non MF ones in terms of cable restraints apart from size and being stamped with the MF symbol.

telectrix · May 26, 2019

time you bought the wago box, wagos, earth sleeved the cpc's, closed box with pipe grips, better off paying £4 for the quickwire solution.

Andy78 · May 26, 2019

wirepuller said:
I don't think either of those are stamped with MF. The smallest MF ones I've seen are around 4x4" and appeared identical to non MF ones in terms of cable restraints apart from size and being stamped with the MF symbol.

The larger one is stamped MF inside the lid. Hard to see on my pic though, even zoomed in.

Andy78 · May 26, 2019

telectrix said:
time you bought the wago box, wagos, earth sleeved the cpc's, closed box with pipe grips, better off paying £4 for the quickwire solution.

Love the quickwire push in system, but I find wagos in boxes better to keep as they are completely flexible in the connection configuration. Quickwire only do one specific job.

telectrix · May 26, 2019

2 jobs. splitters and switching modules. and i'm told they're working on a splitter for 2.5mm/

Wilko · May 26, 2019

Andy78 said:
The larger one is stamped MF inside the lid. Hard to see on my pic though, even zoomed in.

Yes, only the larger box has passed MF testing and has the mark. I the lighting variant may well pass, but it hasn’t yet.

123 · May 26, 2019

The Wagobox, Wagobox XL and Wagobox XLA are all stamped MF. The Wagobox light is little more than an expensive choc box really.

Toneyz · May 26, 2019

Bobby34 said:
I never realised that, always thought the connectors were maintenance free regardless of what enclosure they were in, every days a school day as they say

So did I.

Yozza19 · May 26, 2019

If the 3 sockets that are to be removed are near the centre of the ring is it possable to split into 2 no radial circuits and kill the sockets that arnt needed