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I’m looking to fix a previous install. After having some rendering I have a feed that’s in 10mm T&E and I’m looking to replace the conduit. The gate is being replaced. I’m just looking for an adaptable box that I can have conduit come out the front.

I’ve decided to have the conduit come out from a Wiska box go down the side of the house and then across the gate with a length of conduit into another Wiska box and then another length into an Adaptable Box and go into the rear into the Garage and into the sub main board.

Any help or advice would be great.
 

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UNG said:
As the underground option has been knocked back I think I would just drop a unistrut across the gap to the gate post / garage buttress and stick an swa in, it would certainly look a lot neater
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That’s a good idea. How can I change it from 10mm T&E to SWA. I can’t remove the T&E?
 
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I agree unistrut across to the garage behind where the new gate is going totaly separate from it then it will not need disturbing next time the gate needs changing.
I would go swa out of an adaptable box house side and back into another the garage side unless I could go straight into the sub con unit!
You could even make an upstand from the strut if you needed more height and bolt it to the garage wall.
Sy
 
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RDB85 said:
That’s a good idea. How can I change it from 10mm T&E to SWA. I can’t remove the T&E?
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Gland the SWA to adaptable box, and use terminal block / crimps inside the adaptable box to join each conductor to the T&E.
You need the armour of the SWA earthed.
 
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SparkySy said:
I agree unistrut across to the garage behind where the new gate is going totaly separate from it then it will not need disturbing next time the gate needs changing.
I would go swa out of an adaptable box house side and back into another the garage side unless I could go straight into the sub con unit!
You could even make an upstand from the strut if you needed more height and bolt it to the garage wall.
Sy
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That sounds okay I will have a look at that.
timhoward said:
Gland the SWA to adaptable box, and use terminal block / crimps inside the adaptable box to join each conductor to the T&E.
You need the armour of the SWA earthed.
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Okay could I use an alternative to SWA as I’ve not used it before.
 
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Where the cables comes out of the house fit a circular stop end, conduit down to a Wiska box, a length of white flexible conduit fixed across the top of the gate and in to a Wiska box other end and drill back entry in to garage.

Then use catenary wire to support the flexible conduit?
 
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RDB85 said:
Okay could I use an alternative to SWA as I’ve not used it before.
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RDB85 said:
Would something like NYY be any better?
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NYY would be ok but can you get it in 10mm? It might not need to be 10mm of course depending on the upstream breaker size etc.
I do remember being terrified the first time I had to use SWA. It honestly isn't too bad and you'll have to bite the bullet one day ;-)
Have a gander at this -
 
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RDB85 said:
That’s a good idea. How can I change it from 10mm T&E to SWA. I can’t remove the T&E?
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Without a crystal ball or knowing the layout beyond the the pictures you have posted and how far the existing cable runs inside the buildings it is difficult to advise it may be possible to get swa to the connection points to avoid joints, with experience and the right tools sometimes the impossible is possible
SparkySy said:
You could even make an upstand from the strut if you needed more height and bolt it to the garage wall.
Sy
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The upstand was one of my thoughts when I suggested unistrut my other thought was to run the unistrut at an angle from where it exits the house down to the garage
RDB85 said:
What if I use Galvanised Steel Conduit instead? That would eliminate the sagging issues?

Can you spray it white?
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Unless you have access to a vice and bender I wouldn't bother with galv conduit with regard to painting it I would give the joints a coat of Galvafroid paint and then paint it with a couple of coats of Hammerite
 
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Not really an option here, but Flexishield is available in white, it pretty tough, has a shield so no RCD requirements, stays in place, UV resistant, can be used with while IP68 nylon glands, etc, etc.

But max CSA is 6mm and an expensive option if you can't get it by the metre.
 
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The gate is now fixed so I will need some advice on the conduit and bends etc. it’s 10mm T&E I’m just looking to tidy it up and either do 90 bends or some sort of Wiska Boxes. Any advice would be great.
 

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Matthewd29 said:
Don't put pvc conduit back on that. It looks amateur to begin with and looks even worse after a year or 2 of weather. If you are absolutley insistent on using conduit use steel, can be painted black to match the gate and lasts far longer than black pvc conduit
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It was put in place as a temporary measure as we needed a cable to feed the garage. I will look at steel conduit. I don’t own a bending machine and I would image a 90 would be hard to pull 10mm T&E in.

I was thinking End box from the house, down into another end box and then see if I can find something with a thread on that I can have a straight piece for across the gate. Then another angle box straight across into the last end box into the garage.

I’ve never painted steel conduit. Would any metal paint do? Or is there a specific type that is needed?

As I say I’m open to suggestions with steel conduit.
 
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RDB85 said:
It was put in place as a temporary measure as we needed a cable to feed the garage. I will look at steel conduit. I don’t own a bending machine and I would image a 90 would be hard to pull 10mm T&E in.

I was thinking End box from the house, down into another end box and then see if I can find something with a thread on that I can have a straight piece for across the gate. Then another angle box straight across into the last end box into the garage.

I’ve never painted steel conduit. Would any metal paint do? Or is there a specific type that is needed?

As I say I’m open to suggestions with steel conduit.
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You can get a threaded lid for steel conduit, you could put an end box on and thread it straight into the lid, although 10mm t and e is going to be awkward no matter which way you do it. I believe hammerite will take to galvanised metal but I stand to be corrected.
 
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Matthewd29 said:
You can get a threaded lid for steel conduit, you could put an end box on and thread it straight into the lid, although 10mm t and e is going to be awkward no matter which way you do it. I believe hammerite will take to galvanised metal but I stand to be corrected.
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Have you got a link to it? Or the best place to buy it from?
 
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Matthewd29 said:
www.electrical2go.co.uk

20mm Galvanised Steel Conduit Dome Cover - 20GDC

20mm Galvanised Steel Conduit Dome Cover. Fast and Free Delivery Available. Trade Quality with Low Prices.
www.electrical2go.co.uk www.electrical2go.co.uk

That's a 20mm but they are available in 25mm also. Not sure I'd buy with this company though, pretty poor experiences with them.
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Okay thanks I will have a look online. I will see who out of the wholesalers is the best priced. Also I will need a tap and die set.
 
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RDB85 said:
It was put in place as a temporary measure as we needed a cable to feed the garage. I will look at steel conduit. I don’t own a bending machine and I would image a 90 would be hard to pull 10mm T&E in.

I was thinking End box from the house, down into another end box and then see if I can find something with a thread on that I can have a straight piece for across the gate. Then another angle box straight across into the last end box into the garage.

I’ve never painted steel conduit. Would any metal paint do? Or is there a specific type that is needed?

As I say I’m open to suggestions with steel conduit.
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If you are insistent on not burying get a few lengths of 25mm galv tube and the appropriate fittings in con lock you won’t need a bender of dia set then
 
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