Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views!

Darkwood · Mar 21, 2015

Right ... Just been nudged to set this up by Paul.M and sounds a good idea following recent threads I've done in the Arms..

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[ElectriciansForums.net] Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views!

I've posted this a few times and this is at a mates house following a kitchen refirb several yrs ago.

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Dustydazzler · Mar 16, 2022

Badgers arse rough as ---- to use the cpc / earth conductor as a phase conductor , but if you are rough as ---- then at least heat shrink the entire conductor with coloured sleeve

freddo · Mar 16, 2022

You can get 3 core flex with brown, blue and black cores. I keep it on the van for wiring things like plug in photocells where there is no room for an earth wire. In the fan scenario above I'd use a 4 core flex, at the very least it provides an earth conductor for any future fan that might need it.

littlespark · Mar 17, 2022

Well, the regs DO state that every point must have a cpc, even if it’s unused… so it might be two flexes running between the same two destinations and only one needs a cpc?

I honestly thought there was a reg that said g/y wasn’t to be used as anything other than a cpc, sleeved or not. I’ll have a look for it when I find my book.

A different scenario when you’re sleeving a black in g/y to become a cpc in 3 core SWA with br/bl/gr

telectrix · Mar 17, 2022

pc1966 said:
I thought G/Y was explicitly only for CPC use?

Edit: Yes, see 514.4.2

nah. with T/E it's used for stripping the sheath off.

littlespark · Mar 17, 2022

telectrix said:
nah. with T/E it's used for stripping the sheath off.

Nah. That’s a bare conductor… it’s only g/y after you sleeve it.

telectrix · Mar 17, 2022

jocks 1 - sassenachs 0..........

littlespark · Mar 17, 2022

telectrix said:
jocks 1 - sassenachs 0..........

And the g/y singles are only used for tying ladders to the van roof.

Although those new metal cable ties do a decent enough job…. The plastic ones kept snapping.

ipf · Mar 17, 2022

freddo said:
You can get 3 core flex with brown, blue and black cores. I keep it on the van for wiring things like plug in photocells where there is no room for an earth wire. In the fan scenario above I'd use a 4 core flex, at the very least it provides an earth conductor for any future fan that might need it.

I’ve used the green and yellow in 3c with those photocells fastened to the side of old 400w floods in the distant past. I wouldn’t call them separate points.

Raptor0014 · Mar 17, 2022

I run this group for Hypervolt authorised EV charge point installers on faceache.

I honestly thought this was a joke. But it appears not.

You can see my 2 replies. First asking to clarify if the 2.5 was for the charger or the CT and second explaining what he’s doing wrong.

Beggars belief that some so called professional would think that is ok!

timhoward · Mar 17, 2022

Raptor0014 said:
I run this group for Hypervolt authorised EV charge point installers on faceache.

I honestly thought this was a joke. But it appears not.

You can see my 2 replies. First asking to clarify if the 2.5 was for the charger or the CT and second explaining what he’s doing wrong.

Beggars belief that some so called professional would think that is ok!

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Flipping heck. Scary!

Mike Johnson · Mar 17, 2022

Ah what he did wrong was dreaming he was an electrician when he was asleep, and believed it when he woke up.

Raptor0014 · Mar 17, 2022

Also had a call out for a loss of power to half of a house this morning.

Established that 2 of the phases had no power. Rang Western Power and they tried to assure me the property only had single phase.

Bit of a discussion, explained the cable runs, the 3ph meter etc but they were adamant. So hung up. Scratched my head for a min, rechecked everything again. Rang NAPIT technical and described the layout. Funny enough they agreed it was a 3ph supply.

Rang WP back, got a different call handler. Sent a team out who arrived about an hour after the call.

Established I was correct (odd that, I am now quite proud of being an electrician and knowing what a 3ph supply looked like!

).

They found that something had eaten through 2 of the phases on the pole for the supply coming into the house. No idea what but couldn’t see any dead animals. Once they sorted that they had power back to the rest of the house.

Whilst everything was dead I re-terminated the cables into the RCCB. Need to go back and sort that earth out as it seems a tad inadequate for a 3ph supply!

Was also surprised to see, considering how they bang on about electricians not being qualified to pull the cutout, that their operative just walked up and pulled the cutouts, without even making sure all the CU’s were off!

nicebutdim · Mar 17, 2022

littlespark said:
And the g/y singles are only used for tying ladders to the van roof.

Although those new metal cable ties do a decent enough job…. The plastic ones kept snapping.

With the price of a pack of those metal ties you could buy a set of fancy clamps.

JBW175 · Mar 18, 2022

Found this beauty just hanging out the bathroom wall above a wash hand basin and at eye level on an EICR this morning. I particularly like how they’ve used masking tape over the ends.

When I explained to the client that I can’t just leave it like that, she goes it’s ok, I know it’s live and not to touch it…

Needless to say, I made safe before I left.