Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views!

Darkwood · Mar 21, 2015

Right ... Just been nudged to set this up by Paul.M and sounds a good idea following recent threads I've done in the Arms..

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[ElectriciansForums.net] Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views!

I've posted this a few times and this is at a mates house following a kitchen refirb several yrs ago.

mg_smile:

littlespark · May 3, 2022

Don’t they do WAGO boxes in metal?

pc1966 · May 3, 2022

This is the sort of thing:

Lewden PD435 20mm Male Bonding Nipple

Buy online Edwardes Lewden PD435 20mm Male Bonding Nipple for flat cable such as Twin & Earth & 3 core and earth lead adaptor

www.edwardes.co.uk

Lewden PD435 20mm Male Bonding Nipple for flat cable such as Twin & Earth & 3 core and earth
Sometimes known as a lead adaptor from the times when cable had a lead sheathing on it instead of PVC

Also similar from CEF:

20mm Die Cast Bonding Nipples (Sold in 1's)

Die Cast

www.cef.co.uk

pc1966 · May 3, 2022

littlespark said:
Don’t they do WAGO boxes in metal?

Wago or Whiska do have a metal plate adaptor for their boxes for armour glands, use it with some bondage nipples?

pc1966 · May 3, 2022

This idea:

Wiska Earth Clamp Bar for SWA Glands for WK308 | Wiska (TLC308)

littlespark · May 3, 2022

pc1966 said:
Wago or Whiska do have a metal plate adaptor for their boxes for armour glands, use it with some bondage nipples?

I don’t know which dundonian gutter you’re crawling out of tonight, PC!

pc1966 · May 3, 2022

littlespark said:
I don’t know which dundonian gutter you’re crawling out of tonight, PC!

Crawling in to my dear chap!

I have standards to live down to you know

pc1966 · May 3, 2022

On a more serious note, I do wonder why that circuit is still in lead sheathed cable when the rest have been rewired in PVC. Makes me suspicious that its route is quite difficult to replace so last time they gave up on it.

Never use lead sheathed cable, but I have a vague idea there is some in my attic from several rewires past. Might try and recover it for an experiment!

For the clamps I would be tempted to put some spring washers, or spring/plain/spring in so the lead is kept with a more constant clamping force even as it slowly deforms.

Mike Johnson · May 3, 2022

mainline said:
I think the mixed manufactures are the least of the problems.

The lack of any 6 amp circuit is a concern.

I'm trying to find the time to get back there, atm.

What are those two B6 things on the left hand side.

littlespark · May 4, 2022

I think I’ve still got this, which I think would have been used for lead cables.

Raptor0014 · May 4, 2022

Anyone hazard a guess at what is wrong here? I'm kinda stumped and it's a bit difficult to work out why a fusebox RCBO has failed in a crabtree starbreaker board?.......

The mind boggles sometimes at what people do.

pc1966 · May 4, 2022

Raptor0014 said:
Anyone hazard a guess at what is wrong here? I'm kinda stumped and it's a bit difficult to work out why a fusebox RCBO has failed in a crabtree starbreaker board?.......

The mind boggles sometimes at what people do.

Indeed

Also odd they are all C-curve breakers.

DPG · May 4, 2022

And a 16A lighting circuit, which isn't even covering the whole house.

Raptor0014 · May 4, 2022

pc1966 said:
Indeed

Also odd they are all C-curve breakers.

Yeah and it’s a house too. Apparently the board was fitted a few years ago (they were vague on the timeline) by a qualified electrician. Another ‘electrician’ then came and fitted the EV charge point which is what is running off the Fusebox RCBO.

Something tells me the individual concerned isn’t competent. No certificates for the board or EVCP

DPG said:
And a 16A lighting circuit, which isn't even covering the whole house.

Yep I queried that too. But, in fairness to the client, they have no idea and without being able to speak the ‘electrician’ who installed it I’ve no idea why they’ve done that.

pc1966 · May 4, 2022

Raptor0014 said:
Something tells me the individual concerned isn’t competent. No certificates for the board or EVCP

I think the melted CU speaks more loudly on that point!

nicebutdim · May 4, 2022

Aren't those Loadstar MCBs, rather than Starbreaker? Was trying to picture what might have been rigged up to a plug in busbar.

Mike Johnson · May 4, 2022

Well they do have the normal Grabtree lean.

Raptor0014 · May 4, 2022

nicebutdim said:
Aren't those Loadstar MCBs, rather than Starbreaker? Was trying to picture what might have been rigged up to a plug in busbar.

Yeah they are. When I saw it I thought they were starbreaker. But you are indeed correct it’s a loadstar.

nicebutdim · May 4, 2022

Raptor0014 said:
Yeah they are. When I saw it I thought they were starbreaker. But you are indeed correct it’s a loadstar.

What was the problem - busbar behind the clamp?

Raptor0014 · May 4, 2022

nicebutdim said:
What was the problem - busbar behind the clamp?

Loose connection which was also misaligned. Just hadn’t been tightened up properly. So for the sake of saving circa £10 over a loadstar RCBO. They forced a Fusebox one in and will cost circa £600 once it’s all replaced.

I’ve told them to go back to the ‘electrician’ and see if they are registered under any CPS. Find out their membership no and then complain as they shouldn’t be liable for that.

But ultimately I think they’ll end up paying as I reckon that they’ll get radio silence from the ‘electrician’.

mainline · May 4, 2022

Mike Johnson said:
What are those two B6 things on the left hand side.

https://www.electriciansforums.net/attachments/img_0391-jpg.97145/

Think there's some confusion

littlespark · May 4, 2022

mainline said:
https://www.electriciansforums.net/attachments/img_0391-jpg.97145/

Think there's some confusion

Looks like Mike was referring to an image on #5714, but quoted your message by mistake.

5714….. God, this is a long thread

Mike Johnson · May 5, 2022

Is that God the Black Woman.

Thought I better add, I am too old to worry about the difference between colour and gender.

What have we become that I thought I needed to explain that.

littlespark · May 5, 2022

And here we bl**dy go…..

Gone to look at a little commercial kitchen job in the back of a pub….. there’s those alarm bells ringing!

PAT all the second hand equipment the chef has bought in… Tidy up a few bits and pieces….(broken sockets etc) Wire in a gas interlink cutoff when he can get a gas engineer to come.

Not an RCD in the place.
This is the board everything will be coming off for the kitchen.

And these are a couple of issues I saw just walking through the place….

I also saw at least one light switch hanging off the wall behind the bar.

Domestic Aico smoke detectors in lieu of a proper fire alarm system with at least 2 detectors missing and one broken.

Place is a death trap.

Mike Johnson · May 5, 2022

But what's the Beer like?

Raptor0014 · May 5, 2022

littlespark said:
And here we bl**dy go…..

Gone to look at a little commercial kitchen job in the back of a pub….. there’s those alarm bells ringing!

PAT all the second hand equipment the chef has bought in… Tidy up a few bits and pieces….(broken sockets etc) Wire in a gas interlink cutoff when he can get a gas engineer to come.

Not an RCD in the place.
This is the board everything will be coming off for the kitchen.

View attachment 97254

And these are a couple of issues I saw just walking through the place….

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I also saw at least one light switch hanging off the wall behind the bar.

Domestic Aico smoke detectors in lieu of a proper fire alarm system with at least 2 detectors missing and one broken.

Place is a death trap.