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Right ... Just been nudged to set this up by Paul.M and sounds a good idea following recent threads I've done in the Arms..

Rules....No Offensive material... edit if required before posting as this is the public arena.
Anything to do with the trade or in and around it ...H&S pic's welcome.

[ElectriciansForums.net] Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views!

I've posted this a few times and this is at a mates house following a kitchen refirb several yrs ago. :eek:mg_smile:

[ElectriciansForums.net] Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views!
 
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Went to one of the local residents place today as she was having issues with her Zappi and Renault Zoe.

Looking at the setup it was straightforward and, whilst not necessarily the way I’d have done it, it was still compliant.

So tried to run a Zs test L-PE but got a ‘con’ error on my Megger which means the earth is either unstable or disconnected. R1-R2 was within tolerance. So I knew the continuity through was fine.

The Zoe is quite fussy and if it detects an earth problem it won’t let the car charge.

House is out in the stick and on a TT system. So I ran a Ze at the origin of the supply and this was the lowest result I got.

[ElectriciansForums.net] Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views!


It was fluctuating between 688 and 746.

Someone has had the wisdom to bury the earth rod connection under some decking and flower bed. Meaning it’s inaccessible to check if it’s just loose, or poorly installed.

Ground is rocky as hell so going to be fun getting in some new rods to get the Ze below 200. May end up daisy chaining 3-4 rods just to get it down. But will see how it goes.
 
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Raptor0014 said:
Someone has had the wisdom to bury the earth rod connection under some decking and flower bed. Meaning it’s inaccessible to check if it’s just loose, or poorly installed.

Ground is rocky as hell so going to be fun getting in some new rods to get the Ze below 200. May end up daisy chaining 3-4 rods just to get it down. But will see how it goes.
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It has also been very dry so if the rod is not deep it probably has got that issue as well.

Might be an excuse to try one of these (and the matching SDS adaptor) to get a new rod down through rocky ground:
www.cef.co.uk

Earth Rod Pro Drill Bit (Pack of 1)

Allows rapid earth rod installation when used with Earth Rod Pro drivers - sold separately [1LERPD] and [1LERPM]
www.cef.co.uk
 
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pc1966 said:
It has also been very dry so if the rod is not deep it probably has got that issue as well.

Might be an excuse to try one of these (and the matching SDS adaptor) to get a new rod down through rocky ground:
www.cef.co.uk

Earth Rod Pro Drill Bit (Pack of 1)

Allows rapid earth rod installation when used with Earth Rod Pro drivers - sold separately [1LERPD] and [1LERPM]
www.cef.co.uk
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Already have the adapter and have quoted for the sacrificial bits.

Used them before and they are very good. I’m guessing they have only used 1 rod as I can usually get the reading somewhere around 50ohms if I use two 16mm rods.
 
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Raptor0014 said:
Already have the adapter and have quoted for the sacrificial bits.

Used them before and they are very good.
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Good to hear! I modified M16 stainless threaded rod with angle grinder to achieve much the same before.
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I’m guessing they have only used 1 rod as I can usually get the reading somewhere around 50ohms if I use two 16mm rods.
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If you can get two coupled and driven in to 2.4m depth hopefully enough damp down there for a decent reading. Beware if heavy rain soon as it could mask how dry it is capable of getting in that area.
 
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LewisM said:
Well speaking to the site manager he said the tails go up the wall behind a steel plate then over 5cm from the top and bottom of the joists which they are as I saw them when doing the downlights
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Is the plate earthed ?
Is there a Switch fused isolator ?
 
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There will be 1000s of brand new build houses and flats exactly like this with 10-15 metres of Tails snaking around the fabric of the build in the walls and under the floors. I see it all the time/
No Rcd , No isolator and no way of realistically checking checking if the entire length sits at 50mm+

Code 2 :)
 
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A relative was looking at a new build house and we had a look while they were under construction. Had she gone ahead with the purchase, one of the things I planned to do was ask whichever scam the electricians were in why their members issued falsified certificates of compliance - I spotted 2 without looking, one of which would have been the unprotected tails between where they came through the walls from the fugly box up to where the CU was.
 
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IMO Metre Tails should be visible for inspection from the meter to consumer unit , I really don't like them snaking 10-15mtrs through the fabric of the building up in the walls and in the floor voids. Just seems such a naff design.
 
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