EICR Unsatisfactory - New Property

westward10 · Sep 1, 2023

Those are the correct RCBOs but the existing split load RCD cannot be altered, it plugs to the busbar track. Probably doesn't matter as the two 32As can be shifted to the left as I assume the blanked off points are spare ways. Alternatively leave the 32As where they are.

AjayS2367 · Sep 1, 2023

Many thanks. I will update once the work is done but I had two questions if I may. 1. The electrician sais I can source the parts, a new busbar has been suggested here, would anyone know which one and type is the correct one as Crabtree do many and the link between the neutral bars would the electricans normally carry the relevant parts for this? I have attached image from their brochure and 2. Even with the new busbar for the new RCBOs, would the current existing circuits fit on it? e.g. main switch, test button etc.?

rewireIT · Sep 1, 2023

AjayS2367 said:
Many thanks. I will update once the work is done but I had two questions if I may. 1. The electrician sais I can source the parts, a new busbar has been suggested here, would anyone know which one and type is the correct one as Crabtree do many and the link between the neutral bars would the electricans normally carry the relevant parts for this? I have attached image from their brochure and 2. Even with the new busbar for the new RCBOs, would the current existing circuits fit on it? e.g. main switch, test button etc.?

Howcomes you're asking us this and not him?

DPG · Sep 1, 2023

These electricians keep saying unusual things. Almost as if.........

AjayS2367 · Sep 1, 2023

rewireIT said:
Howcomes you're asking us this and not him?

Apologises I didn't make it clearer in my last post, he advised that can't confirm for sure over the phone what parts are required until on site but he will charge for the initial visit and ascertain including testing. He said I can purchase the parts myself but if he visits the place and they dont work he will charge for his time. I trust the above info is correct so I rather buy them myself because just for visiting they can as you know charge a lot for call outs.

DPG · Sep 1, 2023

AjayS2367 said:
Apologises I didn't make it clearer in my last post, he advised that can't confirm for sure over the phone what parts are required until on site but he will charge for the initial visit and ascertain including testing. He said I can purchase the parts myself but if he visits the place and they dont work he will charge for his time. I trust the above info is correct so I rather buy them myself because just for visiting they can as you know charge a lot for call outs.

Very strange. Not many electricians would want you to research and buy the parts then hope they fit.

You really ought to let the 'electrician' supply and fit the parts.

Plus if you buy the parts then he may not offer any warranty.

rewireIT · Sep 1, 2023

AjayS2367 said:
Apologises I didn't make it clearer in my last post, he advised that can't confirm for sure over the phone what parts are required until on site but he will charge for the initial visit and ascertain including testing. He said I can purchase the parts myself but if he visits the place and they dont work he will charge for his time. I trust the above info is correct so I rather buy them myself because just for visiting they can as you know charge a lot for call outs.

Sounds like you're making this up and you're actually going to try to fit it all yourself.

nicebutdim · Sep 1, 2023

rewireIT said:
Sounds like you're making this up and you're actually going to try to fit it all yourself.

Sounds more like a run of particularly poor electricians.

AjayS2367 · Sep 1, 2023

rewireIT said:
Sounds like you're making this up and you're actually going to try to fit it all yourself.

I am not an electrican nor would I even attempt this myself. I have no idea why you think so.

DPG · Sep 2, 2023

AjayS2367 said:
I am not an electrican nor would I even attempt this myself. I have no idea why you think so.

In that case I would not try to buy the things that will be needed. Leave it to the person doing the job as they will know what they need.

rewireIT · Sep 2, 2023

AjayS2367 said:
I am not an electrican nor would I even attempt this myself. I have no idea why you think so.

So if you've got a spark that's doing the job why are you asking us questions about your install and not him?

Mike Johnson · Sep 2, 2023

If your new electrician wants to visit and cary out testing assuming a full EICR this will take most of the day, once they ascertain the correct bits needed they will then procure the parts fit them and carry out a new set of tests and should issue an updated test certificate, does not seem unreasonable to me to charge for both visits.

nicebutdim · Sep 2, 2023

rewireIT said:
So if you've got a spark that's doing the job why are you asking us questions about your install and not him?

To be fair, the thread started out with the OP questioning recommendations on an EICR and has continued when subsequent electricians made recommendations at odds with advice received in this forum.

The last electrician's suggestion to OP is certainly unusual, but I don't think it's helpful to level unfounded allegations.

AjayS2367 · Sep 20, 2023

rewireIT said:
So if you've got a spark that's doing the job why are you asking us questions about your install and not him?

I had asked him but I do like to check what I have been advised and what they will be doing (same goes for builders) and whether the price they are quoting is reflective of correct working practices. If its wasn't for this forum I would have just replaced the whole unit just blindly trusting what some of them have advised me but ultimately I did get the 6 x RCBOs replaced by one electrican who was very helpful and job all done. There was a saving but not by much but I didn't want my walls altered. The material cost was expensive - 6 x RCBOs for £185 plus £200 labour. The guy offered £500 plus VAT for a BG consumer unit new installation but I didn't want the walls altered as it is flush wall mounted. I think its always a good idea to ascertain what is right even if someone else is carrying out the work as I have found out from my own experience, some of the electricians have not be honest but I am glad this resource was helpful in the end.

DPG · Sep 20, 2023

AjayS2367 said:
I had asked him but I do like to check what I have been advised and what they will be doing (same goes for builders) and whether the price they are quoting is reflective of correct working practices. If its wasn't for this forum I would have just replaced the whole unit just blindly trusting what some of them have advised me but ultimately I did get the 6 x RCBOs replaced by one electrican who was very helpful and job all done. There was a saving but not by much but I didn't want my walls altered. The material cost was expensive - 6 x RCBOs for £185 plus £200 labour. The guy offered £500 plus VAT for a BG consumer unit new installation but I didn't want the walls altered as it is flush wall mounted. I think its always a good idea to ascertain what is right even if someone else is carrying out the work as I have found out from my own experience, some of the electricians have not be honest but I am glad this resource was helpful in the end.

Glad you got it sorted. RCBOs were definitely the best way to go.

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