Bathroom supplementary bonding

Guest55 · May 12, 2013

for the benefit of other forum viewers , tonites stealth banstick was weilded by Marvo.
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Stroppy · May 12, 2013

The ban stick is taking a pasting these days!

kingeri · May 12, 2013

It really chuffing annoys me when people install copper pipe but then use plastic elbows, tees etc. Why not just use one or the other throughout?

happyhippy68 · May 12, 2013

kingeri said:
It really chuffing annoys me when people install copper pipe but then use plastic elbows, tees etc. Why not just use one or the other throughout?

That would require planning a job and we all know plumbers don't do plans:clown:

D Skelton · May 12, 2013

kingeri said:
It really chuffing annoys me when people install copper pipe but then use plastic elbows, tees etc. Why not just use one or the other throughout?

And if they do, it's not hard at all to have one or two of these pre wired up and ready to clip on. Bosh, 2 seconds work and electrical continuity maintained! But who does???

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oldtimer · May 12, 2013

Thats what 15th edition was about basically the introduction of plastic and yep I see this a lot copper pipe with plastic joints/connectors makes you think they should have abandoned

dublin sparks 0 · May 21, 2013

Q: Why are Wiring Rules so strict for bathrooms?
A: Because in the normal house the bathroom is the most dangerous room in the house. An electric shock in a bathroom is often fatal. Nearly every year someone is electrocuted in a bathroom because of breaches in the wiring. Remember with electricity, because it works does not mean that it is safe.

dublin sparks 0 · May 21, 2013

we no longer bring earths into bathrooms the coucil here say u are bringing the problem into the bathrroom with all this plastic pipes etc above was a question on our ruling councils website plus 220v lights are no longer allowed in bathrooms and it has to have its own lighting circut you cant run 220v cables through a bathroom to another room

ackbarthestar · May 21, 2013

dublin sparks 0 said:
we no longer bring earths into bathrooms the coucil here say u are bringing the problem into the bathrroom with all this plastic pipes etc above was a question on our ruling councils website plus 220v lights are no longer allowed in bathrooms and it has to have its own lighting circut you cant run 220v cables through a bathroom to another room

This is fine with new build where the design and installation has taken into consideration extraneous metalwork, or lack of it. But unforunately, this is not always the case where additions, alterations and to even some extent, rewires. to existing properities
Its the responsibility of the electrician to know why and what they are doing when bringing electrical accessories and appliances into an area where there is the higher likelihood of electric shock.

If sparks do not understnd the basics of earthing and bonding then they should consider going on a refresher course.

Geoffsd · May 21, 2013

D Skelton said:
And if they do, it's not hard at all to have one or two of these pre wired up and ready to clip on. Bosh, 2 seconds work and electrical continuity maintained! But who does???

Why would you want to?

D Skelton · May 21, 2013

To preserve good electrical continuity across a PVC joint in copper pipework. Why else?

Geoffsd · May 21, 2013

But it would be better if the pipes are isolated.

D Skelton · May 21, 2013

What do you mean?

oldtimer · May 21, 2013

When everything was copper this was fine because all the water system was electrically and mechanically sound Great then cam plastic tanks to replace galvinised ones and the introduction of plastic pipes and connectors so now we can have copper pipe being used with plastic connectors and we .electrician have to decide how or what should be earthed

Geoffsd · May 21, 2013

D Skelton said:
What do you mean?

Continuity is the cause of danger and the need for bonding.

It would be better if ALL the pipes entering a bathroom were fitted with isolating plastic sections (ideally a bit longer than a plastic elbow) then all the pipework in the bathroom would be electrically isolated.

No earth paths, no touch voltage, no bonding - definitely no bonding, no worries.

So, when you have a pipe which has been electrically isolated then purposely connecting it again MAY be reintroducing hazards which had been removed.

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