Poor work - by a 'proper electrcian'

richy3333 · Dec 6, 2013

I found this the other day and thought it worth posting as certain members are so dogmatic in their views and that makes me chuckle because life is never that black and white.

This is a new install (6 months ago) by a 'time served electrician' and it's in a public building. The installation has had no earth for 6 months. The cable end is not even dressed. I guess it was pushed through and then the meter cupboard door closed. It's not even to the standard of a bad Electrical Trainee.

(apologies the pic was the right way around until I uploaded it).

[ElectriciansForums.net] Poor work - by a 'proper electrcian'

ChrisElectrical88 · Dec 6, 2013

Haha as I opened this post all I though was 'please not one of mine, please not one of mine' haha

DPG · Dec 6, 2013

What's with the two tails left cut but unterminated as well. Looks like a job not yet finished this. Daz

SPARTYKUS · Dec 6, 2013

Must've been opening time. Nowt like a few tests eh?

telectrix · Dec 6, 2013

looks that way. no circuit labels, missing blanks. no RCD label. etc.

i=p/u · Dec 6, 2013

I'm going back .... Gimmi time, geeez

telectrix · Dec 6, 2013

aside from that, though, he can probably spell "electrician" .LOL.

Poor work - by a 'proper electrcian'

richy3333 · Dec 6, 2013

No tests done, unless he made up the Ze. No cert, surprise surprise.

ArseyDee · Dec 6, 2013

telectrix said:
aside from that, though, he can probably spell "electrician" .LOL.

Poor work - by a 'proper electrcian'

Spotted that a few mins ago and have been working on a witty remark along the lines of shoddy work by a one eyed electrcian. Now you've gone and spoilt it!

telectrix · Dec 6, 2013

as long as you don't get arsey about it! LOL.

oops.

hasel5 · Dec 6, 2013

what can one say its bad but never mind its a sign of the times so keep heads up and lets all carry on

thekingiam · Dec 6, 2013

not mine! few! one day though it might be...especialy my last job... i might tidy it up in a week or two if i can get back.

D Skelton · Dec 6, 2013

How sure are you that it was the 'time served' electrician that carried out the work? It could have been one of his lackies. There are plenty of companies (owned and run by time served guys) round my way that send their lackies in to carry out substandard work!

overskilled · Dec 6, 2013

D Skelton said:
How sure are you that it was the 'time served' electrician that carried out the work? It could have been one of his lackies. There are plenty of companies (owned and run by time served guys) round my way that send their lackies in to carry out substandard work!

Doesn't matter, they have a duty of care to ensure that the staff they use are capable of doing the work to the standards expected.
Otherwise they are cowboys...
Problem in this industry is that few want to point fingers and admit that there are a LOT of time served corner cutters out there doing the trade a disservice and giving other electricians a bad name and leaving installations in dangerous conditions.
The NICEIC etc allowing "qualified supervisors" is a total joke and yet so many councils etc will let NICEIC members sign off work without oversight and deny that all too often "qualified supervisors" are signing stuff off without even being on site doing the supervision!

D Skelton · Dec 6, 2013

overskilled said:
Doesn't matter, they have a duty of care to ensure that the staff they use are capable of doing the work to the standards expected.
Otherwise they are cowboys...
Problem in this industry is that few want to point fingers and admit that there are a LOT of time served corner cutters out there doing the trade a disservice and giving other electricians a bad name and leaving installations in dangerous conditions.
The NICEIC etc allowing "qualified supervisors" is a total joke and yet so many councils etc will let NICEIC members sign off work without oversight and deny that all too often "qualified supervisors" are signing stuff off without even being on site doing the supervision!

Totally agree with everything you said, however it would not then be his lack of skill that is causing his work to be substandard, it would be his lack of integrity. This problem is not just confined to the electrical industry and is not something as easy to stop as simply stopping 5WWs carrying out electrical work full stop.

People out there lack integrity and need dealing with sure, but there are many people out there who have the best will in the world but are simply not cutting the mustard when it comes to carrying out electrical installation work.

For every 100 time served sparks there will be 5 carrying out substandard work, for every 100 5WWs there will be 5 carrying out good work.

Pick the right battle mate

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