12500 new electricians required. Does this mean even lower wages

[Steve000]

Over 12,500 electricians needed for new technology skills demand - The Electrotechnical Skills Partnership - https://www.the-esp.org.uk/latest-news/over-12500-electricians-needed-for-new-technology-skills-demand/

This is what an industry training organisations TESP is saying, bit of course they would . Self interest supersedes all other considerations.

What do you think, there is still little or no work in the nation's capital

 

[telectrix]

just fitted some LED strip lighting under cupboards in a kitchen. 3 core flex from FCU, cpc blank terminated in driver with no E terminal.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

What can you do?
I haven’t worked since 9th of Jan, this job is half an hours drive, £230 a day, though the hours are a bit longer than I would like, 10 and a half.

 

[holychihuahua]

In Scotland they tried to split new build / refurb commercial electrical installation into two trades. Hanging tray and cable pulling was to be a new semi skilled trade on sparky's mate rates. Lots of industrial action put a stop to this.
In medievil times everybody belonged to a trade guild. You could not just set up and do a trade outside of a guild. Though i dont suppose there was much work for a sparky in those days.

 

[holychihuahua]

A few years back in Scotland a UK national electrical / mechanical company tried to split electrical installation work in commercial new build and refurb into two trades. Hanging tray and cable pulling would be a new grade of electrical fitter trade paid at sparky mates rates. Industrial action on sites across Scotland put a stop to this plan.

Way back in medieval times trade guilds controlled each trade. You could not just start working in a trade if you were not a guild member. We should go back to this law.

Doing it yourself in your own home, charity work for friends and family could still be permissable. However a non guild member found doing work for cash in any other situation would face a jail sentence.

 

[rapparee]

Personally I've never had it so good.

If you feel under threat from some young wet behind the ears 5 week wonder then maybe you need to take a look at yourself.

 

[Pete999]

I got sent this text a little while ago:
Hi
Looking for a Multi-trade electrician/ plumber for TOMORROW (Friday) for on going work based in EC2 - shoreditch.
MUST be able to: Fix fans, Check electrical shower heads and potentially replace, fix Hot water dispenser , Replace Ballast, Door closure finish
Rate14.28 per hour
Call Maya on 02039170690 ASAP!
Kind regards
Maya - Daniel Owen

And there was I thinking the Middle, Far east was the place for cheap labour.

 

[Pete999]

Personally I've never had it so good.

If you feel under threat from some young wet behind the ears 5 week wonder then maybe you need to take a look at yourself.

Disagree rapparee, we should be looking at the way Electrical Trainee and the like, get qualified, and given Carte Blanche to work for payment in the first place in the first place.

 

[Rpa07]

From the report it seems they don't require electricians for some of the roles, ex wife's son is going to Uni to do a degree and hopefully a masters in AI, that's going to be a growth market.

Me personally I will be running courses in survival skills and how to kill and kin another human for food for when the apocalypse happens durine to climate change and when the Chinks blow up all the nuclear power stations they have built around the world.

Careful with language like that in a post @SWD - some people can rightly get offended by the phrase ‘Climate change’ !

 

[LightGEN]

"small animal management"

....herding cats?

 

[rapparee]

Disagree rapparee, we should be looking at the way Electrical Trainee and the like, get qualified, and given Carte Blanche to work for payment in the first place in the first place.

Obviously a proper spark will run rings around these people.

If there is an extra 12500 greenhorns, then that will give the boys who are currently on the bottom rung a chance to step up to foremen and supervisory roles.

As regards to the Electrical Trainee system the genie is out of the bottle.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Personally I've never had it so good.

If you feel under threat from some young wet behind the ears 5 week wonder then maybe you need to take a look at yourself.

It’s not so much 5 week wonders, as no week wonders who are taking work away from us.
Their not actually taking it, they’re being given it by companies that don’t want to pay for qualified Electricians.

I’ve lost track of the number of sites where I’ve turned up and been tasked with sorting out the mess that’s been left by others.
I know on one site (a School in Walthamstow), other than myself, the most qualified person there was an Apprentice borrowed from another company.
On another site (Data Centre in Harlow), the main containment had been done by a company that on the previous building had been doing the carpentry work.

 

[SteveG]

I once had a customer that was knocking a wall down for a roller shutter door. Unfortunately there were about 30 SWA cables running across that wall and they had to jointed and re-routed.
I couldn't get my normal sparks so phoned an agency. I told them I wanted a fully qualified experienced electrician.
They charged me more per hour than I was charging the customer.

Up turns Billy Bob next morning (late cos his bus was late???)
I show him the job and he tells me he hasn't done armoureds before.
(These weren't big SWA's - biggest 4mm 4 core)
The clock was ticking on this job - and I didn't have time to give him a lesson on SWA glanding.
I decide he can pull cables across where the door will be.
He opens his tool box.... a claw hammer (wooden handle) Rusty Pliers with no insulation. Various spanners - none metric and odd useless screwdrivers.

I asked him where he had done his time.
He said he'd never been to prison.

That sealed it - he was off back down the road.