12v from 240v no neutral?

[chcnorris29]

Hello,Was told this today and am wondering if it is correct.If you have 240v ac and do not use the neutral then you get 12v ac?Thanks

 

[DJ Ovengloves]

So do you mate....it's 230v nominal voltage here bud

You and your friend need to go to college,live to neutral = 240 live to earth = 240

 

[chcnorris29]

230 V ± 10% at 50 Hz. so can be 240.

 

[Marvo]

I am in college and have always been told that it is 240 from l - E so did think he may be taking the ****. Just wanted to check.

What course are you doing and what college are you at?

 

[chcnorris29]

Apprentice, C&G 2357. why?

 

[Marvo]

230 V ± 10% at 50 Hz. so can be 240.

I think after the question in your opening post discretion would be the better part of valour.

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Apprentice, C&G 2357. why?

See here.

 

[DJ Ovengloves]

Voltage in the UK is 230 nominal - end of.

Oh and look up volt drop

230 V ± 10% at 50 Hz. so can be 240.

 

[chcnorris29]

Thanks

 

[telectrix]

Voltage in the UK is 230 nominal - end of.

Oh and look up volt drop

end of, my arse. might be 230v 'nominal' to satisfy the euro rats, but it comes into the house at 240V , unless upstram the poncy neighbours have a 12kW shower 25kW hot tub, and mcdonalds cooking range, then it's down to 230 ish.

 

[7029 dave]

The operating voltage can range single phase lower to upper limits 216v to 253v acceptable operating ranges, in the dno area I work in anyway.

 

[Guest111]

end of, my arse. might be 230v 'nominal' to satisfy the euro rats, but it comes into the house at 240V , unless upstram the poncy neighbours have a 12kW shower 25kW hot tub, and mcdonalds cooking range, then it's down to 230 ish.

Exactly Tel, me and you havent gone metric yet:wink5:

 

[Tiny Spark]

Think you mentor is winding you up, At least I really hope he is else he's plain stupid/dangerous!
As for the Voltage thing 250V is normal here, Apparently we are on "A hot spot" according to the DNO.
That being said we had a fault in one of our warehouses a few years ago and we were getting 300v!
Didnt know anything about it until PC's and phone chargers started blowing.

 

[telectrix]

Exactly Tel, me and you havent gone metric yet:wink5:

what's metric? is it the paris underground?

 

[Earthstore]

Also, if you are in an area with a lot of PV it can bump the voltage up too..

 

[Adam W]

end of, my arse. might be 230v 'nominal' to satisfy the euro rats, but it comes into the house at 240V , unless upstram the poncy neighbours have a 12kW shower 25kW hot tub, and mcdonalds cooking range, then it's down to 230 ish.

Just out of interest, what is the power consumption of a mcdonalds cooking range, and are they even available to the general public?

 

[telectrix]

:30:trust you to nit pick.