18th edition question

[chris day]

Not been on the 18th edition course yet.

In short what are the design changes I will need to implement come jan 1st on a domestic re-wire?

 

[Octopus]

Makes me wonder what the rest of my course is going to be like!!

Oh er

Tomorrow nights posts by @wirepuller could be controversial

 

[Ian1981]

Imagine if an actual jpel/64 committee member actually spoke to us lowly electricians and actually explained what their reasoning is behind some of the regulations.
Like a Q&A session
Oh look a pig flying past my window.........

 

[Octopus]

Imagine if an actual jpel/64 committee member actually spoke to us lowly electricians and actually explained what their reasoning is behind some of the regulations.
Like a Q&A session

That’s NEVER going to happen .... and they wonder why more and more people are doing sparking without the proper regs and knowledge

The regs are written by people so far removed from the coal face they should be shaking Neil Armstrong’s hand ...

 

[Ian1981]

That’s NEVER going to happen .... and they wonder why more and more people are doing sparking without the proper regs and knowledge

The regs are written by people so far removed from the coal post they should be shaking Neil Armstrong’s hand ...

The only thing I can think that is as close as is the NICEIC tech talks but some people have a problem with that organisation but I’m going to the riverside Stadium one in December so I’ll report back.
I’m also now QS for my company so I’m going to do the assessors head in on the next assessment haha

 

[Nigel]

Who actually uses plasterboard as a ‘wiring system support’?

 

[suffolkspark]

Be interested to hear what spin has to say, if this turns out to be wrong well fair enough. But I cant help thinking it's not going to be wrong.
Has nobody else done the 18th, was there no discussion of this?

I did it a month back and we were told by the tutor cables above a plasterboard ceiling need not be supported by metalic fixings... So the opposite of your tutor.... This trade is getting a joke

 

[Nigel]

I did it a month back and we were told by the tutor cables above a plasterboard ceiling need not be supported by metalic fixings... So the opposite of your tutor.... This trade is getting a joke

Clearly bolloxs. The Reg is very clear.

 

[Silly Sausage]

For someone who works in the rail industry, think before casting one's stones!

 

[Ian1981]

Next we will be told that cables behind plasterboard walls need additional support

 

[Nigel]

Next we will be told that cables behind plasterboard walls need additional support

Do you use plaster as a cable support?

 

[Ian1981]

Do you use plaster as a cable support?

No I’m not a mud slinger?
Do you?

 

[netblindpaul]

The fire rating of plasterboard was raised during the discussion, but this was not considered to meet the requirement for supporting wiring systems

Which discussion please?
Every public discussion involving the IET, Certsure, or NAPIT has stated that a plasterboard ceiling is fine as a fire break, thus anything above is fine without metallic fixings.

 

[Octopus]

Clearly bolloxs. The Reg is very clear.

Hum ............... please expand on that!

 

[DPG]

Do you use plaster as a cable support?

Do you fully clip every cable you run under floorboards?

 

[Silly Sausage]

Now I’m very much in danger of possible ridicule but sod it
This is the NICEIC guidance on the matter taken from their 18th edition suite guide
Yes they do not write the regulations etc etc but as a member of their scheme I very much support and agree with this advice View attachment 45557 View attachment 45556

I never ever thought I'd agree with something the NICEIC says!