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People and Electricians should get with the program Ant, when I workd efor the PSA, we had a Planned Maintenance program for Power consuming Apparatus testing, so in reality it's not a new thing, this was back in the 1970s. All these needless qualifications/courses have caused nothing but confusion, the Schemes are to blame, in my opinion. They see a niche for a money making ploy, and jump on it, they use the context of a Dommestic issue, when really every factory, commercial business and house holder should get their power consuming stuff tested, perhaps if they had done this, Genfell MAY not have happened, that is an observation on my part only.
What needless qualifications/courses are they Pete and how are the schemes to blame all I am aware of is one C&G course and exam. I could agree with you but I can't see what fact you are basing it on.
 
OTE="anthonybragg, post: 1405451, member: 86360"]What needless qualifications/courses are they Pete and how are the schemes to blame all I am aware of is one C&G course and exam. I could agree with you but I can't see what fact you are basing it on.[/QUOTE]
Well to be able to do PAT testing to coin an old phrase, you need to be competent qualified doesn't come into the equation, I realise how you personally feel about the Schemes Ant, and respect your loyalty, but you do the PAT course which ends in a C&Gs qual, which is condoned by the CPS, when in reallity you dnt need it, competence is the key word in this argument, please don't feel this is a personal gripe, you are a Mate, and surley we can disagree, without it becoming personal.
 
Pete, it's all about being competent and one way to prove that is by qualification.I never take it as a personal gripe from you Pete and defiantly never anything personally I just couldn't see the link between PAT testing and the Schemes involvement not unless the schemes are trying to say you can only do PAT testing if you belong to one of their schemes. I was once a Principle Duty Holder and additional Q.S for a NICEIC Approved Contractor, up until around the timethe the Part P came out and all these Schemes arrived I could see what the aims of the NICEIC Approved Contractor Scheme was about but my view since then has changed for the worst all they can do is remove a contractor from the roll .
 
The simple reason why I don’t want to lump non-portable and other machinery in with PAT testing, is because of the price.
Most of these PAT testing firms charge some ridiculously low amount for testing an item.
That’s all well and good if the most you have to do is unplug something, then plug it into a tester and press a button.
When you have to start dragging washing machines etc. out from under counters, disconnecting FCUs, opening up panels and the rest it’s another matter.
 
Try testing a £0.5M CNC machine which is fixed equipment with a "PAT" [sic] tester, or a £10M production line in a factory
I bet that most "PAT testing persons" would not know where to start.
If they did, they could probably cause more damage than they earn in a year, i.e. destroy the controller on the CNC, and perhaps all of them on the line, causing more damage in £ than they would earn in a lifetime!
 

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