500 year old cottage

[a.e.s]

I am just about to start wiring a 500 year old cottage for an old chelsea footballer, I am after suggestions of how to do the switch drops. My customer has jus moved out of a £4 million seafront mansion where all the finishes on the plates and downlights were brass and he wants the same in his cottage. Problem being all the internal brickwork is original and has not been plastered over, they are also set within oak beams, and the external walls are also single skinned, so no cavity. my customer was asking about doing the switch drops in brass conduit with a surface mounted brass backbox and switch, I have told him that I have never heard of this and doubt very much whether it is in production, I was wondering what other people have done in a similar situation, or if anyone has any oher ideas. (by the way he was talking, white plastic anything is out of the question).

 

[mogga]

I thought that but what about the Zones?

 

[scotsparky]

the bathrooms ect? same rules apply it the equivelent of conduit. and the glands are waterproof so no problems if done well looks very good.

 

[rocker]

Here's a silly question: what is it that looks so good about clipped MICC? And no I'm not being sarcastic, I would like to know!

 

[Richard Andrews]

I've recently put 38 d/lighters in a 500 yr old cottage, blinking low ceilings & doorways everywhere, me being 6ft it hurt.
We managed to get most wiring in the walls, but some channeling, lots of beams.

They used to do churches etc in MI unsheathed so I'm told dono about nowa dayz.

I've got no suggestions other than wood effect trunking lol

i've worked away doing a multitude of downlights - couldn't even raise a beer at the end of the day without my arms aching...

 

[Deleted member 9648]

Here's a silly question: what is it that looks so good about clipped MICC? And no I'm not being sarcastic, I would like to know!

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Bare pyro is of very small diameter,clipped with the correct clips and brass r/h screws it can be dressed to the contours of the wall and hence be very discreet.
It tends to be more in keeping with old,heritage type properties......where anything plastic is going to look naff.

 

[Ashley Williams]

Yea bare pyro saw a monestry in france wired in bare pyro is done well is very tasteful.

A

 

[scotsparky]

just a thought. remeber it you do install bare pyro then varnish it or it will turn green if its damp.

 

[joethepudding]

If the buget is there its got to be wireless and remote control.... Its the future!!!

 

[KWCFC]

Who is the footballer?

 

[mogga]

lol I was waiting for someone to ask that

 

[jeremy]

Got to agree with Joe. About 5 years ago used some from TLC wholesalers and it was cost effective then as a newish technology.

 

[Notsosmart]

One other thing, oak is acidic and can eat away at unplated fixings which then transfers iinto brass fittings tarnishing them ~ not sure about 500 year old oak though, unless damp comes into play.

 

[jjjinx]

Then it will make it look more authentic.

 

[Richard Andrews]

I am just about to start wiring a 500 year old cottage for an old chelsea footballer, I am after suggestions of how to do the switch drops. My customer has jus moved out of a £4 million seafront mansion where all the finishes on the plates and downlights were brass and he wants the same in his cottage. Problem being all the internal brickwork is original and has not been plastered over, they are also set within oak beams, and the external walls are also single skinned, so no cavity. my customer was asking about doing the switch drops in brass conduit with a surface mounted brass backbox and switch, I have told him that I have never heard of this and doubt very much whether it is in production, I was wondering what other people have done in a similar situation, or if anyone has any oher ideas. (by the way he was talking, white plastic anything is out of the question).

Right mate, try the following link for an idea of materials available - listed buildings is my specialist field and bakelite switches, et al, are available... At a price.

www.produkt-gmbh.de.

I normally run trunking from CU's up to loft, then right around loft and drop down the walls in sigle core with conduits. Circuit ID's for socket outlets become front and back rather than up and down - this saves a lot of under floorboard work ( and I wouldn't want to be liable as a consequence of drilling holes through old timbers.....).

Hope this helps.

Rick.

PS Don't forget to sell the green switch - a 2-way between master bedroom and entrance that turns of all non-essential lights from the comfort of bed. I'd also install audio/visual/data cables at the same time - you'll see some old fashioned outlets on the link provided.

 

[Lloydus]

Back on track, who is the footballer ? photos of build please