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Hi Willum, just thought I would reach out and say hello. Having observed the interactions it is a shame you will go away with the feelings you expressed. It is not the purpose of the forum to make people feel unwelcome. I can assure I have had my moments with members but I have a very thick skin and can hold my corner ok. I appreciate your viewpoint and would ask you to consider not tarring the whole forum black. There is some good discussions on here. Someone opened a thread on this topic. It is a tricky situation to be in at the one time wanting to help and the same time being cautious about helping as one can't easily assay the skill/knowledge of the person and the dangers in advising. What you have described is very difficult to opine on at a distance involving delta and possible star/delta motors with the required DOL switching and power requirements. It is quite a job to work out and install those items properly and someone would have to be onsite and physically eyeballing the situation. Hence the paucity of advice. But all in all as I say there are friendly times on here and try not to be discouraged by a few perceived (justifiable!) slights it is worth persevering.
 
Hi Willum, just thought I would reach out and say hello. Having observed the interactions it is a shame you will go away with the feelings you expressed. It is not the purpose of the forum to make people feel unwelcome. I can assure I have had my moments with members but I have a very thick skin and can hold my corner ok. I appreciate your viewpoint and would ask you to consider not tarring the whole forum black. There is some good discussions on here. Someone opened a thread on this topic. It is a tricky situation to be in at the one time wanting to help and the same time being cautious about helping as one can't easily assay the skill/knowledge of the person and the dangers in advising. What you have described is very difficult to opine on at a distance involving delta and possible star/delta motors with the required DOL switching and power requirements. It is quite a job to work out and install those items properly and someone would have to be onsite and physically eyeballing the situation. Hence the paucity of advice. But all in all as I say there are friendly times on here and try not to be discouraged by a few perceived (justifiable!) slights it is worth persevering.
Hi Vortigern.
Thanks for that. A voice of reason - and I fully appreciate what you say.
Sadly, you shouldn't have had to write it.
I can easily understand how it's difficult/impossible to work out someone's level of knowledge from afar. There's one thing I do know for sure, though. Having been an instructor for many years, the fastest way to alienate a student/pupil is to denigrate them and attack or insult their level of knowledge and understanding. Once you destroy that wish to learn, you have lost the game, probably forever.
I came on here to try and learn something. I've learnt something - but it's certainly not just been confined to the practicalities of what I want to do with my lathe electrics.
Amongst all the unpleasant bits, I've seen from the helpful posts that it is more complex than I thought. I've said as much. I thought I'd initially presented as much information as possible in order to get an answer that didn't mean dozens of questions having to be asked. It appears it was instantly construed as 'I'm going to DIY it" Other than holes in walls, fastening things up, etc, I've never intended to do it all myself, despite the accusations - veiled, or otherwise.
It would be nice if all the unpleasant bits, my reactions included, could be removed from this thread. It might then be of some use.
I don't and never will understood the approach that says if you think a question or plan is daft, ill informed, or ill conceived, then the best response is to attack and/or insult the originator. I certainly don't need mollycoddling, not after the profession I was in, but it's just so unnecessary.
Will
 
I see where you are coming from and if it suits both parties whereas you can wait when the electrician is available and it keeps him in work during a lull period.I would have thought that your electrician could have got a good deal from the usual wholesaler he uses?As for your original question, it should be your electrician's design having seen the job but normally it would be SWA buried/in a duct at an adequate depth.
Ah! Sorry Anthony. In the midst of all this, I've missed this bit. I'm glad someone agrees with at least one bit of my plan. ;)
Will
 
I am not a UK spark but I will tell you. These guys are speaking out for your safety.
If you are purchasing materials get the parts recommended by your spark.
He will know more of what's required for a safe and legal job.
The same goes for prepping.
Improperly prepared jobs involve more labor to correct and a lot more time.
Most of the time the rough responses they give are from having to fix up messes someone else made.
 

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