Adding a spur to an existing circuit on a BS3036 CU

[electro-lass]

Hi there,
I'm a newly trained electrician with limited experience and could really use some expert advice. I've searched through the forum about this but have only managed to confuse myself further. I have been asked to add a double socket to a living room ring circuit. My plan is to spur off an existing socket in the living room running the cable under the floor boards. The CU is a Wylex BS3036 board. To comply with regulations, does the double socket that I install have to be RCD protected?

 

[dave274]

you need very little space for a stand alone rcd but if you really cant fit it in then either use an rcd fcu or an rcd socket and keep the cable surface mounted . don't just go ahead and stick it in anyway if it doesn't comply

 

[kingeri]

I wouldn't be commenting on a cert that I had knowingly done none-compliant work. There are a number of solutions to the job you want to do, choose one and go for it. If you really can't then don't do the job!!

 

[telectrix]

and don't forget to check earthing and bonding.

 

[guest119]

Hi there,
I'm a newly trained electrician with limited experience and could really use some expert advice. I've searched through the forum about this but have only managed to confuse myself further. I have been asked to add a double socket to a living room ring circuit. My plan is to spur off an existing socket in the living room running the cable under the floor boards. The CU is a Wylex BS3036 board. To comply with regulations, does the double socket that I install have to be RCD protected?

Time to be honest Lass.
You say you are an electrician but you list only add on type courses.
You are then a domestic installer? And not a very experienced one at that.
17th edition, pat testing and a watered down inspection and testing course dont make you an electrician and the basic nature of your question shouts lack of experience.
Are you actually working on your own or is there somebody to mentor you?
Why should we on here give you advice so that you can go and under cut us?


Boydy

 

[telectrix]

i don't mind giving advice to the inexperienced.......


this way up.......

 

[pepparz]

Time to be honest Lass.
You say you are an electrician but you list only add on type courses.
You are then a domestic installer? And not a very experienced one at that.
17th edition, pat testing and a watered down inspection and testing course dont make you an electrician and the basic nature of your question shouts lack of experience.
Are you actually working on your own or is there somebody to mentor you?
Why should we on here give you advice so that you can go and under cut us?


Boydy

why cant people on here give new sparks a break, everyone has to start some where. scared shes pinching your work is a bit pathetic to be honest.

 

[Silly Sausage]

i don't mind giving advice to the inexperienced.......


this way up.......

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Is that the RCD Test button in the top right corner?

 

[electro-lass]

you need very little space for a stand alone rcd but if you really cant fit it in then either use an rcd fcu or an rcd socket and keep the cable surface mounted . don't just go ahead and stick it in anyway if it doesn't comply

It appears that there is a difference of opinion as to the sense of adding a RCD FCU or one RCD socket to a non-RCD protected RFC as per a previous comment by wirepuller. Can one of the trusted long-term commenters please advise why some would say it is not a sensible way forward?

Got to learn somehow!

 

[telectrix]

there are 2 ways to make it compliant.

1. RCD at start of circuit, as my previous post.

2. RCD FCU adjacent to the socket that your are spurring off so that at least your new socket and the cable to it , are compliant.

 

[dave274]

of course its better to protect the whole circuit but if that is not an option then you have to use other options. if the customer doesn't want to pay for it then don't do the job.

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

It appears that there is a difference of opinion as to the sense of adding a RCD FCU or one RCD socket to a non-RCD protected RFC as per a previous comment by wirepuller. Can one of the trusted long-term commenters please advise why some would say it is not a sensible way forward?

Got to learn somehow!

Generally with a 4 year apprenticeship

 

[electro-lass]

Time to be honest Lass.
You say you are an electrician but you list only add on type courses.
You are then a domestic installer? And not a very experienced one at that.
17th edition, pat testing and a watered down inspection and testing course dont make you an electrician and the basic nature of your question shouts lack of experience.
Are you actually working on your own or is there somebody to mentor you?
Why should we on here give you advice so that you can go and under cut us?


Boydy

Yes, I did state electrician, maybe I should have said domestic installer, my apologies. I did say limited experience, which I think you'll find equates to inexperienced?! I wish I did have someone to mentor me quite frankly, but still yet to find someone in this area who will. In the meantime, I've got to put what I've learnt (and paid money to learn) into practice somehow - and who said I would undercut you? I'm probably doing the little jobs that someone like you would sneer at whilst making the lady client feel stupid - or even worse, ripping her off with your know-it-all attitude!

 

[Spoon]

Time to be honest Lass.
You say you are an electrician but you list only add on type courses.
You are then a domestic installer? And not a very experienced one at that.
17th edition, pat testing and a watered down inspection and testing course dont make you an electrician and the basic nature of your question shouts lack of experience.
Are you actually working on your own or is there somebody to mentor you?
Why should we on here give you advice so that you can go and under cut us?


Boydy

Don't quite see why we shouldn't give someone some help when we can. Its one way of learning new things. I have learned quite a bit from this site and I am always learning new things... which is great.

 

[electro-lass]

Generally with a 4 year apprenticeship

Point me in the direction of someone offering a 4 year apprenticeship and I'm there

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

location?