advice..second fix on fire alarm

[kuksiani]

On the last job im doing i have to install a second fix on the fire alarm but i dont have experience on them..the first fix consist on 2 zone and its very simple..i have run 1.5mm FP200 red cable with Live , Neutral and Earth on redial from fire control panel to each smoke and manual call point..system its L1

Smoke detectors its Fike made and on the base its 8 terminal points..
1 and 2 its mark SCRN..
3 ---0V out
4----0V in
5 and 6 its Remote LED
7 ---Line in
8 ---Line out

any help how i can connect them on circuit..


__ Manual call point its FIKE made and on the base its 3 block terminals writing on the letters..Red , Blue and Yellow. Each one have two termination..how i can connect them on the circuit..

how i can connect End Of Line Resistor on the smoke detectors and manual call points..

many thanks...

 

[MDJ]

Gasp!! please take this the right way, however if your having trouble second fixing a basic fire alarm you should not be doing the Job, Where are you in the country? Perhaps someone here can come and take a look for you at a cost covering them for a couple of hours or so.

 

[tazz]

First of all is the control panel Fike or Rafiki...? First cable from the panel goes in to the first detectors 4/7 the out from 3/8 to the next detector or call point, earths terminated in 1/2, continue the same until the last detector/call point and turn eol dip switch on the last detector/call point....not eol resistor needed.

 

[Farmelectrics]

I gather your in the fire alarm bussines taz lol

 

[telectrix]

tazz is the roman god of fire ( detection )

 

[stranded]

Found your problem: Its a fike/rafiki.

Tazz got in quickly! ;-) Whats the make of the panel? If its not fike/rafiki then thats half of your problem...

 

[tazz]

I dabble a bit...lol

Just have this feeling that this guy is mixing Rafiki with other detection and fire panel...!
time will tell

 

[stranded]

Lol...

Seems he has all rafiki devices, so a panel change could do it as long as they have been wired correctly...

Lets wait and see!

 

[telectrix]

well, when he refers to the 24V D.C. circuit as L,N, and E, think there's little hope.

 

[tazz]

Still hate these Rafiki twin wire....with a passion....grr

 

[stranded]

Im supprised there hasnt been an article on the news " fire alarm causes fire ". or rafiki panels are going to unscrew themselves from the wall because of their 100db transformer buzz, nearly louder than the ****y multipoints ... and the callpoints that can be reset without a key, panel components that fail in 6 months...the simple fire system, that has a 50 page manual...oh god stop me...

 

[tazz]

Got a call out to a HMO with CB200 Rakiki....report was the panel was on fire...security alarm installers had left all paper work as they do, in the panel. and after being subjected to a drying out period...it started smoldering......how to install a fire alarm that caurses the fire in the first place....???

 

[kuksiani]

yes tazz..the fire panel its CB200 Rafiki..I understand connection on the detectors ..what about call point.do i follow colors for them..blue to blue,red to red ..

can you advice more for dip switch please..

many thanks tazz..

 

[tazz]

Dip 1 is elo switch
Red = Postive Blue = Negitive

 

[stranded]

Got a call out to a HMO with CB200 Rakiki....report was the panel was on fire...security alarm installers had left all paper work as they do, in the panel. and after being subjected to a drying out period...it started smoldering......how to install a fire alarm that caurses the fire in the first place....???

Had to read that a couple of times actually. Thought you must have meant the panel was in fire, not on fire... Thats unbeliveable