Am I being taken for a ride?

[surreygirl]

I had an electrician come to do a safety check at my property that I let out last week and he has recommended that remedial work should be done at a cost of 2,100 pounds, These are:-

Upgrade of eco 7db
Upgrade of 2 x circuits to RCD protection
Install of isolation point for underfloor heating
identification of points where required
Fusing of points
Enclosure of exposed wiring - these are wires that are not in trunking
Investigation of supply wiring and condition of main isolator and repair
Retermination of required points
cable enclosures

Nothing listed but the sub total is 1,750 plus VAT comes to 2,100

Is that a lot! I last had a test done five years ago, true the wire of the economy 7 is in a situation which is not assessable, however he wants to run a wire from it across the lounge and into the kitchen!

But the amount seems excessive and it is through the Agents who manage the property for me.

Any suggestions would be very helpful.

Many thanks Surreygirl

 

[surreygirl]

I'm well aware of the requirements but the previous EICR is a point of reference unless a lot of alterations have been carried out which should have been certified anyway or the tenant has tampered with the installation.

An electrical installation cannot "fail" an Electrical Installation Condition Report which is a report on the condition of the electrical installation it is not the same as a car MOT which is a pass, pass with advisories or fail outcome.
An EICR has a satisfactory / unsatisfactory for continued use outcome although FI, C1, C2 and C3 codes could be classed as graded advisories which can affect the overall outcome given on the report
The issue of the report is not conditional on the inspecting electrician carrying out all the remedial work needed to give the necessary satisfactory outcome required
The attitude of this electrician from what has been said seems to give an impression that his skill set is not up to carrying out EICR's

I agree. There is something wrong somewhere along the line in fact I do not need one really I have just read it is every five years for multiple households, however I like to be sure and better to be safe then sorry, but being taken for a ride was not my intention and that is what seems to be happening here. I think the electrician is over doing it a bit I have to say.

Thank you for your reply.

If I get the right fuses in for the underfloor heating I shall be a lot happier.

 

[Phil Thompson]

Every 5 years or change of tenant. Whichever comes sooner.

 

[telectrix]

I agree. There is something wrong somewhere along the line in fact I do not need one really I have just read it is every five years for multiple households, however I like to be sure and better to be safe then sorry, but being taken for a ride was not my intention and that is what seems to be happening here. I think the electrician is over doing it a bit I have to say.

Thank you for your reply.

If I get the right fuses in for the underfloor heating I shall be a lot happier.

would need to know the loading of the ufh to determine the fuse/MCB size, as a rough guide, ufh is approx.150 -200 watts /sq.m, so if you have,say 10sq.m, that's 2kw, approx 9A. fuse/MCB should be sized to protect the cable to the ufh, so could be anywhere between 10A and 32A depending on how it's wired.

 

[Toneyz]

this is sounding more and more like a rip off by either the sparks or the agent or both. let's wait and see what the independent sparks comes up with.

Tony Cable is freelance now according to P.E. mag.

 

[telectrix]

Tony Cable is freelance now according to P.E. mag.

so.a bit like unleashing a yorkshire terrier into a pack of rottweilers. let's all rip him to pieces.

 

[Pete999]

Tony Cable is freelance now according to P.E. mag.

Oh no Jesus, now what? TC 7671.A

 

[surreygirl]

would need to know the loading of the ufh to determine the fuse/MCB size, as a rough guide, ufh is approx.150 -200 watts /sq.m, so if you have,say 10sq.m, that's 2kw, approx 9A. fuse/MCB should be sized to protect the cable to the ufh, so could be anywhere between 10A and 32A depending on how it's wired.

It is about 20 square meters 12ft by 15ft something like that!

I so not know what wattage the fuses are at the moment I will find that out on Tuesday.

 

[surreygirl]

Every 5 years or change of tenant. Whichever comes sooner.

That is what is recommended but it is not obligatory according to the Gov site. 10 years for owner occupier home and five years for a tenanted property. Although I do know that agents like to do one after every new tenant.

 

[Pete999]

That is what is recommended but it is not obligatory according to the Gov site. 10 years for owner occupier home and five years for a tenanted property. Although I do know that agents like to do one after every new tenant.

The Government WTF do they know, SFA

 

[telectrix]

20sq.m. equates to around 4kW, i.e 18A, so i'd expect on a 2.5mm cable with a 20A MCB/fuse. assuming all are on the same circuit. if split over more circuits, the the MCB/fuse rating may belower.

 

[surreygirl]

The Government WTF do they know, SFA

True, but that is what is recommended. I think every five years is good to be on the safe side. It is the Agents who say after every tenant there should be a check. But it is best to be safe I think.

 

[Toneyz]

True, but that is what is recommended. I think every five years is good to be on the safe side. It is the Agents who say after every tenant there should be a check. But it is best to be safe I think.

You never know what not all but some tenants do.

 

[surreygirl]

20sq.m. equates to around 4kW, i.e 18A, so i'd expect on a 2.5mm cable with a 20A MCB/fuse. assuming all are on the same circuit. if split over more circuits, the the MCB/fuse rating may belower.

Yes it is all on the same circuit I only have it in the lounge and the very small hall. It is not all over.

 

[Pete999]

True, but that is what is recommended. I think every five years is good to be on the safe side. It is the Agents who say after every tenant there should be a check. But it is best to be safe I think.

My Son is an Electrician, he is renting a property, no EICR it's a case of where can I rent at a good price? I know it's not right, but needs must I'm afraid, and until this excuse for a Government, become part of the real World we are doomed Mr Mainwaring, doomed. Stop fluffing around Mrs May, we don't have all of you privileges, or your money, think of the, what was the working population, all of you should be ashamed of your complete lack of knowledge of Mr and Mrs Average, stop thinking of who or what thinks of you, do the right thing, help the British people, because you aren't doing it yet. Look after number one, you constituents, well maybe not yours but you get my drift.

 

[surreygirl]

You never know what not all but some tenants do.

True some do to odd things I have to say but touch wood and whistle I have not had any bad tenants so far so good.