AM2 Lighting

[KAS1]

Lets just hope it doesn't become common practice to take neutrals to switches in situations when they are not required, if they are required so be it, if not it's usually to cut costs/corners.

 

[Silly Sausage]

If neutrals were supposed to be at switches you'd have neutral terminals on them. People are saying that they put floating blocks in the back of switch boxes is a no-no for me. Ws always taught to use fixed base connectors, and you can't do that in a switch box. there are two wiring methods for 2-way wiring, Conventional (2 plate) singles in containment and Conversion (3 plate) T&E.

What you need here is this!
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[Guest55]

Lets just hope it doesn't become common practice to take neutrals to switches in situations when they are not required, if they are required so be it, if not it's usually to cut costs/corners.

its been common practice to take neutrals to switches on every commercial contract i've ever worked on in the last 20 years that hasnt involved singles in conduit............

 

[Plonker 3]

If neutrals were supposed to be at switches you'd have neutral terminals on them. People are saying that they put floating blocks in the back of switch boxes is a no-no for me.

So what do you do with through crimps?

 

[Lou7]

Through crimps are permanent joints,not connector blocks. Therefore no need to fix them. Even choc boxes have a peg to keep the block in place.

 

[Engineer54]

its been common practice to take neutrals to switches on every commercial contract i've ever worked on in the last 20 years that hasnt involved singles in conduit............

Well, within that time period you stated, i did some work for a large shopping centre, in the UK and i can categorically tell you it was NOT allowed on that project, and went even further, by actually stating in the specification that loop feeding at the switches was not acceptable!! One small sub contractor working on a smallish satellite building which was spec'd for T&E wiring didn't take any notice, and consequently had the lot ripped out and almost thrown off the job to boot!!

So i'd say, it's far from ''common practice''!!

 

[SirusDvirus]

Did the same on my AM2..T/E to the light and 3 core across the switches, neutrals joint in the switch and common joint in the intermediate and whilst on the seperate test rig I checked to see how that was done and same outcome, you can only do what you are asked on the AM2 spec :S ,but they now do switches with a neutral block as part of the switch.

 

[KAS1]

If you read my post I have said "in situations when they are not required" so I take it from your input you take neutrals to switches just to save a penny here and there, what is the point of your remark yet again a dig I fear, biff keep your remarks to yourself unless they are relevant

its been common practice to take neutrals to switches on every commercial contract i've ever worked on in the last 20 years that hasnt involved singles in conduit............

 

[Guest55]

If you read my post I have said "in situations when they are not required" so I take it from your input you take neutrals to switches just to save a penny here and there, what is the point of your remark yet again a dig I fear, biff keep your remarks to yourself unless they are relevant

firstly , i'll say what i want until admin says otherwise.......
secondly , my post was making the point that its industry practice to take the neutral to the switch on many commercial contracts , hence is relevent to the topic at hand.
thirdly , wiring it in such a manner doesnt save money at all as it uses more cable but yields other benefits to installation methods.

so when youve taken your head out your arse for 5 minutes come back and debate a bit more without being a numpty.

 

[KAS1]

Here we go again FFS

firstly , i'll say what i want until admin says otherwise.......
secondly , my post was making the point that its industry practice to take the neutral to the switch on many commercial contracts , hence is relevent to the topic at hand.
thirdly , wiring it in such a manner doesnt save money at all as it uses more cable but yields other benefits to installation methods.

so when youve taken your head out your arse for 5 minutes come back and debate a bit more without being a numpty.

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Biff has spoken lol

 

[Guest55]

Here we go again FFS

nope , youre still being a numpty
;-)

 

[KAS1]

BIFF has spoken

nope , youre still being a numpty
;-)

 

[Guest55]

well done ! youve finally mastered the quote button lol.

 

[KAS1]

FFS JFO work that out BIFF FFS

well done ! youve finally mastered the quote button lol.

 

[Silly Sausage]

and 4thly,
I'd rather listen to Biff any day of the week!