Amendment 3 Non combustable

[TJ Anderson]

theres nothing wrong with metal consumer units, crappy wobbly plastic ones should be banned a long time ago.

I think Insulated is much more adaptable in a domestic setting, particularly for additions.

 

[netblindpaul]

There have been significant changes from the DPC to the final draft I gather from sources @ the IET.

 

[SirKit Breaker]

Can somene please post up where i can see a definitive list of what is actually going to be in the new ammendment please as there are a aweful lot of people who seem to know what it will contain yet seem shy inputting up the actual source of information.

The IET website has a free download. Wiring matters, its got a good overview.

Cheers...........Howard

 

[trev]

I have to admit lads that I'm sick of thread after thread of speculation about non combustible/not readily combustible this/Lowered ZS that/I've heard this from a bloke who knows someone who walks his dog with another bloke who knows someone who works for a r£gulatory body/draft this/draft that etc etc.
The bottom line is that come late January we'll all know what the amendment states and what it doesn't. Following that we'll have a 6 month period during which we can adapt to the mumbo jumbo it will undoubtedly contain and debate it's true meaning before it becomes mandatory.

 

[Jay Sparks]

I have to admit lads that I'm sick of thread after thread of speculation about non combustible/not readily combustible this/Lowered ZS that/I've heard this from a bloke who knows someone who walks his dog with another bloke who knows someone who works for a r£gulatory body/draft this/draft that etc etc.
The bottom line is that come late January we'll all know what the amendment states and what it doesn't. Following that we'll have a 6 month period during which we can adapt to the mumbo jumbo it will undoubtedly contain and debate it's true meaning before it becomes mandatory.

Exactamundo....lets wait until it actually comes out in few weeks...then we will all be disagreeing on how we interpret the new additions/amendments. Just like we do with the ones we have now..lol

 

[sparkdog]

Can't wait to get my hole saw's teeth into those metal consumer units.

 

[Engineer54]

So that is what the so-called committee have been spending their time on is it, typically most of which didn't need fixing. There are plenty of areas within BS 7671 that is in dire need of being amended and some that need a complete re-write, but nope, let's concentrate on fiddling around with the nondescript!!

 

[driverman]

Taking to an electrician other day, he was telling me that he was with a Protus rep and was told that Protus are no longer going to manufacture plastic con-units. They were going to concentrate on all there products being metal.

 

[trev]

Taking to an electrician other day, he was telling me that he was with a Protus rep and was told that Protus are no longer going to manufacture plastic con-units. They were going to concentrate on all there products being metal.

They'll still be cack

 

[SPARTYKUS]

Its no coincidence that Proteus, spelt backwards, spells SUET.

 

[Loki]

So from the 1st Jan 2016 all consumer units will need to be made of Steel
is this right?

Just had my Big Yellow Book arrive today & this is what it says:


421.1.201 With domestic (household) premises, consumer units & similar switchgear assemblies shall comply with BS EN 61439-3 & shall:

(i) have their enclosure manufactured from non-combustible material, or
(ii) be enclosed in a cabinet or enclosure constructed of non-combustible material & complying with Regulation 13.12

Note 1: Ferrous metal, e.g. steel, is deemed to be an example of non-combustible material
Note 2: The implementation date for this regulation is 1st January 2016, but does not preclude compliance with the regulation prior to that date.



Michael

 

[SPARTYKUS]

Given the right equipment, I can combust steel for you.

what is the definition of "non combustible" ???

 

[Guest125]

Just install steel distribution boards from now on. Saves a lot of arguements.

 

[Silly Sausage]

Just had my Big Yellow Book arrive today & this is what it says:


421.1.201 With domestic (household) premises, consumer units & similar switchgear assemblies shall comply with BS EN 61439-3 & shall:

(i) have their enclosure manufactured from non-combustible material, or
(ii) be enclosed in a cabinet or enclosure constructed of non-combustible material & complying with Regulation 13.12

Note 1: Ferrous metal, e.g. steel, is deemed to be an example of non-combustible material
Note 2: The implementation date for this regulation is 1st January 2016, but does not preclude compliance with the regulation prior to that date.



Michael

Notice that the above says nothing about the enclosure should retain its structural integrity.
So a uninflammable plastic CU which justs melts away in the event of a fire, with its internals burning away, is fine! :smilielol5:

 

[Jay Sparks]

I think the manufacturers need to be clear on whether their enclosures are actually defined as "non combustible". As Archy says, most of them just melt in to a blob.