An Awful Feeling This

[brucelee]

increase length increase resistance half length half resistance or double Csa half the resistance

insulation resistance NO change

the schedule of test results is that what your referring to

 

[gap30]

existing installation, new garage built - what information would you require to carry out the verification

The results of the general assessment of characteristics sections 311,312 and 313
Any plans, charts or drawings relating to the installation

Is this an acceptable answer or do i need to list them separately ie earthing arrangements, max demand, supply protective device characteristics, rating of consumer unit etc

 

[gap30]

increase length increase resistance half length half resistance or double Csa half the resistance

insulation resistance NO change

the schedule of test results is that what your referring to

has anybody got a copy of one of these?

 

[JUD]

has anybody got a copy of one of these?

http://electrical.------.org/wiring-regulations/forms/2008.cfm?type=pdf

 

[Marie-Claire]

it sounds like nerves are getting the better of you so you are second guessing all of the stuff you already know which is making you more nervous. Set aside a couple of hours each night and get to grips with the terminology (thats the biggest confusion in my eyes) and by the time your retake your exam, it will come to you. Don't let dread of the exam block the knowledge that you quite clearly have already

 

[IQ Electrical]

Stick with the link Jud has posted, the 2391-10 is based only on these model forms, NICEIC etc are very different.

By the time you get familiar with the forms, take your exam and get your results, you should have a few weeks before the Electrical Installation Condition Report consigns the Periodic Inspection Report to the bin

 

[gap30]

http://electrical.------.org/wiring-regulations/forms/2008.cfm?type=pdf

thanks i am not sure if the form i am looking for is in there, its the one with all the circuit details you see inside the door of distribution boards after the test has been completed and it lists the circuit details not so much the test results

 

[gap30]

it sounds like nerves are getting the better of you so you are second guessing all of the stuff you already know which is making you more nervous. Set aside a couple of hours each night and get to grips with the terminology (thats the biggest confusion in my eyes) and by the time your retake your exam, it will come to you. Don't let dread of the exam block the knowledge that you quite clearly have already

so my original answer is ok? not to list the items individually

 

[IQ Electrical]

thanks i am not sure if the form i am looking for is in there, its the one with all the circuit details you see inside the door of distribution boards after the test has been completed and it lists the circuit details not so much the test results

You're thinking of a 'schedule of circuit details' this form does not exist in 2391 land, it's an NICEIC etc. type form that also gets used as a DB schedule.

 

[gap30]

You're thinking of a 'schedule of circuit details' this form does not exist in 2391 land, it's an NICEIC etc. type form that also gets used as a DB schedule.

yes there is actually a question on this in the 2391, i saw it somewhere a few days ago and it had me on the ropes, i want to go over the question again, it asked you to mention 5 items from the sheet, dont quote me on this it was something along the lines of number of points, isolation and switching...

 

[IQ Electrical]

yes there is actually a question on this in the 2391, i saw it somewhere a few days ago and it had me on the ropes, i want to go over the question again, it asked you to mention 5 items from the sheet, dont quote me on this it was something along the lines of number of points, isolation and switching...

It'll be number of points, type & composition of circuits, identification of protective devices and a description of the method used for fault protection.

 

[gap30]

It'll be number of points, type & composition of circuits, identification of protective devices and a description of the method used for fault protection.

YES thats the one

 

[SirKit Breaker]

Cheers mate, i had a look at the exam success book today, its a very good book and very informative - i now have just under 5 weeks to get my head around all of this, its a lot of information to absorb and i am going to give it 110%

My bet is that you have the knowledge and ability to pass the 2391. The problem you have is explaining yourself to a C&G exam marker who is looking for all the correct words. I was just the same, and during the course i was told by the course tutor " I know what you mean, but if you use terminology like that, you have absolutely no chance of passing the written exam because they mark it on what you write, and not what you mean". So i went out of my way to learn them, and even 5 months after passing i still use the correct terminology now.

Cheers...........Howard

 

[gap30]

My bet is that you have the knowledge and ability to pass the 2391. The problem you have is explaining yourself to a C&G exam marker who is looking for all the correct words. I was just the same, and during the course i was told by the course tutor " I know what you mean, but if you use terminology like that, you have absolutely no chance of passing the written exam because they mark it on what you write, and not what you mean". So i went out of my way to learn them, and even 5 months after passing i still use the correct terminology now.

Cheers...........Howard

a steel conduit and trunking system has been erected and is to be inspected prior to the installation of cables. State three inspection items which will be checked using the sense of touch. (3 marks)


1. Earthed (would it be earthed before wiring possibly - if using earth links on trunking)
2. Securely fixed
3. struggling here - conduit suitable for damp and corrosive situations (good old gn3)

 

[IQ Electrical]

1 Mechanically sound joints

2 Securely fixed

3 Any holes made good