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Here's a paragraph I originally missed about the export tariff (currently 3.1p)

"At the start of the scheme it was foreshadowed that changes to export tariffs would apply to all generators. However, existing tariffs are based on the assumption of the current level of the export tariff. An increase to the export tariff could therefore potentially provide a windfall gain to existing generators, who would continue to receive the benefit of a high generation tariff. We therefore propose that any change to the level of export tariffs would apply only to new entrants to the FITs scheme."
 
DECC's proposals for this are mind-boggling. Tariffs could be changing almost constantly i.e. the two-month notice periods can overlap.

Just to translate Barker's tweet ("Looking forward to sharing ambitious new plans for #FiTs with both Industry, & Parliament later today. Bigger scheme, better value!")

ambitious - complex and unworkable
bigger scheme - we ran out of money so had to fudge the budget by moving money from the RO budget to the FIT budget to compensate but this is "purely a technical adjustment and makes no difference to the actual amount of subsidy available"
better value - swinging cuts
 
Just to translate Barker's tweet ("Looking forward to sharing ambitious new plans for #FiTs with both Industry, & Parliament later today. Bigger scheme, better value!")

ambitious - complex and unworkable
bigger scheme - we ran out of money so had to fudge the budget by moving money from the RO budget to the FIT budget to compensate but this is "purely a technical adjustment and makes no difference to the actual amount of subsidy available"
better value - swinging cuts

I'm So gonna retweet this!
 
Typical government/civil service snafu - overcomplicated system which will confuse everyone. They try to please all sides and end up making it unworkable. How are we supposed to give a customer a returns forescast when DECC can change the rules apparently on a whim?

PJ
 
THow are we supposed to give a customer a returns forescast when DECC can change the rules apparently on a whim?

Well, you'll just have to tell them that the forecast is only valid for a very short period, and that really if they want to be assured of that forecast, then they should sign the contract right now or they might lose out. Sorry, what was that about pressure selling...
 
So just to clarify - installations after 12th December 2011 and BEFORE 3rd March 2012 will still attract a FIT rate of 43p, subject to the Government not going to the Supreme Court, or losing at the Supreme Court.

Am I right?
 
I can accept the tariff being 21p, although i think this 10% drop every 6 months is too much! I mean yes the price of Solar has come down but it can only go down so far....

Also, am i right by saying for a customer to claim the Feed-in Tariff Grant after the 1st April 2012 they will need to have an EPC rating of D, or is that just for the Green Deal?
 
So just to clarify - installations after 12th December 2011 and BEFORE 3rd March 2012 will still attract a FIT rate of 43p, subject to the Government not going to the Supreme Court, or losing at the Supreme Court.

Am I right?

Yes, that's right. DECC have until 22/2 to apply to Supreme Court.
 
I can accept the tariff being 21p, although i think this 10% drop every 6 months is too much! I mean yes the price of Solar has come down but it can only go down so far....

Also, am i right by saying for a customer to claim the Feed-in Tariff Grant after the 1st April 2012 they will need to have an EPC rating of D, or is that just for the Green Deal?

To get full rate they will need to supply an EPC 'D' (at least) when they apply for a FiTs contract with an electricity supplier. If they do not provide one then they will be on 9p for 25 years.
 
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Surely a lot of the cowboy Solar PV installers will just sign any house off to have an EPC rating of D or higher!?
 
Hell...
I consider myself to be reasonably bright, I have followed this whole FIT shambles, more or less on a daily basis, and from different sources too, (but TedM is top man), and more or less I could figure out what to tell customers.
Having just read this thread, to be honest, I have not got a clue what the hell it is.
I am aware that we are in limbo land at this moment in time, court dates etc, but they could not have made the thing more complicated if they had tried.
To tell any industry that their profits will be cut by 10% every 6 months, but could be sooner than that, plus you have to try and get a customer houses to level D of the EPC just so you can fit a PV system with next to no profit in anyway..
Our FIT system was modeled on the German one, which has been running 12 yrs+, did they have all of this within 2 years of it starting??
My belief is that Government/big six do not want a solar industry..
 
Can anyone post a list of the basic requirements to achieve a D rating?

It does not work like that basicly it is one big SAP calculation and everything from house age to light bulbs are taken into account.

My house is a higher D

No loft insulation
Double glazed windows
No energy Efficent bulbs
1965 bulit

Etc etc

I did and epc on a house built 1892 it got a lower D

So I think thats the good news

I have been on DEA course and soon will be accredited to under EPC's so if you require a EPC & survey in one hit give us a shout NORTH WEST mind
 

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