Another housebashing question

[Pete999]

When wiring New Builds, and positioning lighting points, is it a case of fitting your own noggins between joists/rafters, or is this down to the builders, is it a case of as close as possible to the nearest timber joist or rafter, and get the boarder to cut the hole in the Plaster board, I'm curious that's all.

 

[Baddegg]

apart from straightening rusty nails, my old man used to whittle bits of scrap wood for wall plugs, and some old aluminium salvaged from WW2 aircraft for buckle clips. ( he was an airframes fitter)

Still use wood as plugs sometimes myself even now tel

 

[FatAlan]

There is a skill to cutting noggin so that it’s tight enough to knock into place with a hammer prior to nailing. A skill I have yet to develop any consistency on yet

 

[rapparee]

There is a skill to cutting noggin so that it’s tight enough to knock into place with a hammer prior to nailing. A skill I have yet to develop any consistency on yet

I just use plaster board fixings

I've also slid bits of wood in behind the plaster board but never attached it to anything.

Just left it floating in the void and had someone else pin it down whilst I screwed into it.

 

[telectrix]

There is a skill to cutting noggin so that it’s tight enough to knock into place with a hammer prior to nailing. A skill I have yet to develop any consistency on yet

it's easY. thinkl ike a plumber. cUt 1/8" too big and BASHIN WITH HAMMER/

 

[FatAlan]

The chippy I had working on my house cut them for me to fix and also cut a length to act as a template for the height to save measuring every time. Very old school ...cut templates for everything. Had me cutting the birds mouth notches for the roof rafters.

 

[Dave OCD]

Tel, You should only post up to 8 pints then rest up for the night.

 

[Dave OCD]

For most of a recent barn conversion 1st fix we've been putting noggins in ourselves bang centre of the bedrooms etc. Then while not there the builders labourer put noggins in with central drilled holes where we'd wired for 4 bathroom downlights, then put the ceiling up.... Each point had downlighter written on the cables with a sharpie ffs.

 

[Simon47]

Still use wood as plugs sometimes myself even now tel

So do I. However I discovered that a pack of bamboo skewers is really really useful - especially when working on old lime walls where you mostly can't get the hole to drill cleanly enough to tack a plastic plug. Saves all that whittling.

 

[GBDamo]

So do I. However I discovered that a pack of bamboo skewers is really really useful - especially when working on old lime walls where you mostly can't get the hole to drill cleanly enough to tack a plastic plug. Saves all that whittling.

McDonald's coffee stirers, always pick up a handful when in there.

 

[Simon47]

At the risk of thread hijack ...
I was brought up with joists set into walls, so two sides of the room you could just go up/down between the joists, and the other two sides you'd use the gap between end joist and the wall (thumbs up to those builders that leave a useful gap there, and for those that don't/didn't - you b'stards).
No it seems that they insist on having a wallplate bolted to the wall, and the joists hung off that. So there's a 'kin lump of timber all along two sides of the room.
So what do people do these days, other than just avoid putting anything on those two walls ?

 

[pirate]

"used to light a fire in an old oil drum to keep warm "

LUXURY!
I were born in a cardboard box...had to get up 2 hours before i went to sleep...

I know...
I know...it's a brilliant sketch though!

 

[Baddegg]

So do I. However I discovered that a pack of bamboo skewers is really really useful - especially when working on old lime walls where you mostly can't get the hole to drill cleanly enough to tack a plastic plug. Saves all that whittling.

Always carry cocktail sticks on me van for rehanging old doors

 

[davesparks]

"Chop Saw and Nail Gun" lightweight

"chop saw and nail gun" much more fun!

 

[Leesparkykent]

Most don’t have noggins....the boarders bring cable out in center and plasterboard fixings are used.

 

[Ian1981]

Joiner’s fit lighting boards and noggins for all lighting and boxes.
Never been on a site when they don’t.