Another Nagy production covers controversy subject

[Dustydazzler]

3rd part work / certification of A another’s job (skip the intro start at 2min45)

 

[FatAlan]

Just seen that too. He has a very good point. Personally, if you are able access, check and test every part of a new installation I can’t see an issue. How does this sit with supervision of say an apprentice or a mate? Is there a clearly defined boundary?

 

[Dustydazzler]

I think the ‘grey’ area comes when you adopt A another’s work as ‘your own’ without really checking it over or properly looking at it. drive by certification if you will...

Any certification you hand over should state you are fully adopting the job only once it has had a full inspection by yourself

 

[Risteard]

I don't see it as a grey area. You can't certify work you haven't done. You could only sign for inspection and testing even if you had witnessed first fix

The existing work can only be reported on - not certified by you. Even third party verification schemes do not allow involvement of the verifier after the fact.

His certification should only cover his work.

 

[Dustydazzler]

He is saying his certification will cover ‘everything’ including the already institute cables run in by others.

I agree with Nagy in this instance , that he can clearly see what the work was already done then you can adopt it as your own

All this nonsense if someone else has touched the job you can’t finish it as your own really is silly

If you started a job and I finish it leaving it a lovely well completed job then I’m taking the full credit

 

[Ian1981]

Nagy is NICEIC and NICEIC do not cover 3rd party certification

 

[Andy78]

What grey area ? If you are signing a document that says you installed something when you didn't it's just lying.
The signature box asks for the installer, not probable installer. Then it would be a grey area.

 

[Sparky Pat]

Would be nice if the NIC would go on camera with Tom and discuss it with him.

 

[Andy78]

Would be nice if the NIC would go on camera with Tom and discuss it with him.

They're hardly likely to say the truth, which is "We don't care what goes on as long as our official line keeps our arses out the sling"

 

[Risteard]

Given his public admission disciplinary action should be taken against him.

 

[Strima]

I would say third party sign off starts at the design stage.

 

[Dustydazzler]

Given his public admission disciplinary action should be taken against him.

In a previous video about a year ago he finished off a half complete builders rewire and took on the job as his own work....

He is happy and so is his cps by the looks

 

[Midwest]

3rd party certification to one side, there should be a system in place to officially resolve such situations. Electricians pass away, companies go under or are in dispute, i.e. there is a good reason why the original installer cannot finish or sign the certificate.

Why do we have to have some schemes operating 3rd party and others not. So this doesn’t happen in commercial or industrial installations.

 

[Markyd]

sorry boys...be with you in a minute...just watched it..... Cant get past the first few mins.........GRANVILLE fetch a cloth

 

[Midwest]

Doesn’t he swear a lot in front of camera, even in front of luscious Laura.