Antique Chandalier - with no earth...

[Marcus Vaughan]

Hi all. So I have been asked to install a couple of 18th century antique chandeliers that have previously been ‘electrified’ (customers words!).
Anyway I am but uneasy about it in terms of earthing. There is the kind of 2 core cable you sometimes get with modern double insulated pendants lights, and the cable feeds plastic e27 lamp holders around the chandelier. The cable is tied to the metal frame with thin tie wire.

Physical check and all is fine. I would have preferred to get an earth down to the frame - but can’t.

Obviously no double insulation symbol.

Am I being over-cautious? Would you put it up as is?

 

[westward10]

Another problem with connecting an earth to this type of fitting is they are very often multiple metal parts with unreliable physical connections between the parts. Earthing at one point is no guarantee the entire construction is effectively earthed.

 

[Boing89]

Another problem with connecting an earth to this type of fitting is they are very often multiple metal parts with unreliable physical connections between the parts. Earthing at one point is no guarantee the entire construction is effectively earthed.

That’s where you start bonding and make a “feature” of it.

 

[Marcus Vaughan]

Another problem with connecting an earth to this type of fitting is they are very often multiple metal parts with unreliable physical connections between the parts. Earthing at one point is no guarantee the entire construction is effectively earthed.

That's exactly what its like. Lots of loose fitting rods and chains and the like.

 

[Marcus Vaughan]

Thinking it through and considering that;

1. The wiring looks to have been professionally done, and is correctly terminated and secure in plastic lampholders with no inner insulation showing.

2. Cable has only been lighting secured to the frame with ultra thin tie wire with no damage to the sheath/outer insulation.

3. Circuit is RCD protected.

4. There is no known local infestation of gymnastic flying squirrels able to reach high ceiling heights to chew cables (no external influences).

Then I'm inclined to install them as is....

 

[telectrix]

Thinking it through and considering that;

1. The wiring looks to have been professionally done, and is correctly terminated and secure in plastic lampholders with no inner insulation showing.

2. Cable has only been lighting secured to the frame with ultra thin tie wire with no damage to the sheath/outer insulation.

3. Circuit is RCD protected.

4. There is no known local infestation of gymnastic flying squirrels able to reach high ceiling heights to chew cables (no external influences).

Then I'm inclined to install them as is....

get them fitted, then learn how to spell chandelier. .

 

[Marcus Vaughan]

get them fitted, then learn how to spell chandelier. .

Aw no - I can’t believe I spelt it wrong. That’s apawling spelling..

I’m just going to call them ‘big old lights’ from now on..