Anyone else bother double-certing?

[Teddy Lop]

So if you fit a new consumer unit for a landlord you need to supply an EICR as that's the only thing the letting agent understands/accepts - technically though you should do an installation cert too, as that forms the customers proof you did the work and guarantee, and would be a scheme membership requirement. Is everyone doing both given it seems a waste of time and money as you're basically copying across? Seems to me most don't bother - but then the nature of the beast is I don't often get asked to attend to work thats been done properly by people who cared so it's easy to build a false image of how the industry operates. What do you do?

 

[timhoward]

No I would not trust someone else's EICR.

Serious question - do you ever do EICR remedials when you didn't do the EICR? I'm interested how people approach this.
I try not to discredit the original guys work unless it's completely hopeless. There seems to be a public perception out there that no two electricians ever agree and I try and avoid fuelling this myth wherever possible as it doesn't help any of us!

The problems start when you notice something serious that was missed originally....
But unless being paid to start again I think you have to start by assuming it was competently done. (Some names do ring instant bells though!)

 

[westward10]

We rarely do this however we were asked to quote a batch for some retail outlets from someone else's Reports. None of the power circuits had actually been tested just Lim and the Reports contained very little. Out of curiosity I visited a couple of sites and the list of faults not mentioned in the Reports was endless, we handed them back without comment and said no.

 

[Teddy Lop]

Serious question - do you ever do EICR remedials when you didn't do the EICR? I'm interested how people approach this.
I try not to discredit the original guys work unless it's completely hopeless. There seems to be a public perception out there that no two electricians ever agree and I try and avoid fuelling this myth wherever possible as it doesn't help any of us!

The problems start when you notice something serious that was missed originally....
But unless being paid to start again I think you have to start by assuming it was competently done. (Some names do ring instant bells though!)

TBF if the original guy was any good he'd be doing the remedials himself, it tends to be where the client smells something off that the rems get offered around! Or the clients just sniffing to get the best price. Neither option tends to be desirable!

Glad I'm not the only mug double certing then, I'd say a single cert that covers both would make sense but I don't think the powers who dream all this up have ever been near an actual work environment.

 

[ipf]

Serious question - do you ever do EICR remedials when you didn't do the EICR? I'm interested how people approach this.
I try not to discredit the original guys work unless it's completely hopeless. There seems to be a public perception out there that no two electricians ever agree and I try and avoid fuelling this myth wherever possible as it doesn't help any of us!

The problems start when you notice something serious that was missed originally....
But unless being paid to start again I think you have to start by assuming it was competently done. (Some names do ring instant bells though!)

Quite a few in the past. Some it's just ignore but if you know or work for the people involved, it can be awkward.
Industrial and Commercial wise, some firms do nothing but test.
Had one big rich sports club, tested by 'specialists' Bureau Veritas. I don't think they'd be interested in remedials in the slightest. Rather than a company, it's more of a conglomerate.
They've got that many testing tentacles, I wouldn't be surprised if they're into Covid testing.

 

[Mike Johnson]

They've got that many testing tentacles, I wouldn't be surprised if they're into Covid testing.

Have a guess how I read that. ?

 

[ipf]

Have guess how I read that. ?

I don't think they're into VD or TC testing........never know, though.

 

[ipf]

Get this via email quite often (a section of it). Disappoints me about the trade, to be honest. No idea what they're charging.

Our directly employed electricians arrive in plain white, unbranded vans and can act as your staff and wear your company uniforms (if you provide them). We can even emboss your company details on to our high quality test labels and final reports - in short, the whole service can be made to look like it has come directly from your company. All you need to do is take your customer's order, then give us a call, earning you a passive income whilst your own team undertake other projects.

We undertake this sort of subcontracting for many electrical and facilities companies throughout the UK. Most importantly, quality and safety are also our top priorities, which is why we're NICEIC, SAFEcontractor, Construntionline and ISO9001/14001 UKAS accredited.

 

[NDG Elecs]

If a board change is for a rental I will do the EIC first and then do an EICR thereafter (complete with loads of C1s and C2s for the awful workmanship present at the board)..!! That way I get to change the board over again!! A great little earner !!!