app controlled sockets/switches

[D Skelton]

Why do i get the feeling we're talking about different things, i mean the lightwave sockets and switches that replace standard sockets and switches so need wiring in! i assume now that you are talking about the plug in gear?

I'm talking about their basic gear. You are right, they do make retrofit sockets and switches. The basic gear is either wireless receiver lamps, blutac on the wall switches or plug in dimmer sockets for lamps. Like I said, I don't particularly like the stuff but it does serve a purpose and I would recommend it as a DIY solution to a customer, but that's it. If I was asked about the retrofit stuff I'd still recommend the plug in stuff as I can't see a point to the retrofit sockets unless you want to turn your TV on or boil the kettle whilst on holiday?? Still, if someone asked for me to install the sockets regardless of my recommendations then yeah, I guess I would, I just can't see it happening unless I actively sell it to them.

I don't wanna sound like I'm belittleing your business because I'm not, just offering my opinion on the gear that's all. I apologise if I've offended you.

There are people out there that sell Lightwave as a genuine and full on home automation product (not that I'm accusing you of being one of those people). This is something that does annoy me because it simply isn't, it's a basic product that delivers a basic solution.

 

[monkeyelectric]

I'm talking about their basic gear. You are right, they do make retrofit sockets and switches. The basic gear is either wireless receiver lamps, blutac on the wall switches or plug in dimmer sockets for lamps. Like I said, I don't particularly like the stuff but it does serve a purpose and I would recommend it as a DIY solution to a customer, but that's it. If I was asked about the retrofit stuff I'd still recommend the plug in stuff as I can't see a point to the retrofit sockets unless you want to turn your TV on or boil the kettle whilst on holiday?? Still, if someone asked for me to install the sockets regardless of my recommendations then yeah, I guess I would, I just can't see it happening unless I actively sell it to them.

I don't wanna sound like I'm belittleing your business because I'm not, just offering my opinion on the gear that's all. I apologise if I've offended you.

There are people out there that sell Lightwave as a genuine and full on home automation product (not that I'm accusing you of being one of those people). This is something that does annoy me because it simply isn't, it's a basic product that delivers a basic solution.

Well i still think its an excellent low cost sollution, the sockets i use mostly for controlling table/floor lamps but its the lighting products that are the best, you can create different moods and schedules for when the lights turn on and off.

By the way i'm not offended, I don't get offended easily! Like i said i make good money from installing the retrofit gear but i do prefer to install loxone gear, never tried lutron though maybe i'll email them for some information!

 

[D Skelton]

never tried lutron though maybe i'll email them for some information!

It's the best on the market for lighting control by far! Lutron set the standard for lighting automation, you simply can't compete with it's compatibility, expandability, quality, functional control, design or ease of use.

 

[monkeyelectric]

It's the best on the market for lighting control by far! Lutron set the standard for lighting automation, you simply can't compete with it's compatibility, expandability, quality, functional control, design or ease of use.

Yeah it looks good gear on the website!

 

[dragon-av]

It's the best on the market for lighting control by far! Lutron set the standard for lighting automation, you simply can't compete with it's compatibility, expandability, quality, functional control, design or ease of use.

Er you can lutron is overpriced and under performing you will only really find it in residential and interior designer specced commercial applications... there are alternatives that do everything lutron do and more normally for a fraction of the cost...

Mode, Rako, iLight, Niko all have advantages even KNX can be quite good

 

[D Skelton]

Er you can lutron is overpriced and under performing you will only really find it in residential and interior designer specced commercial applications... there are alternatives that do everything lutron do and more normally for a fraction of the cost...

Mode, Rako, iLight, Niko all have advantages even KNX can be quite good

Never tried Mode, but fitted and worked with Rako, had problems, used iLight, had problems, worked with Niko once, seems like a good product, but on lighting alone, doesn't even begin to compete with Lutron's capabilities. Funnily enough, I have never had a single problem with a Lutron system.

You get what you pay for. If it was simply overpriced, no one would be buying it.

 

[shanky887614]

Never tried Mode, but fitted and worked with Rako, had problems, used iLight, had problems, worked with Niko once, seems like a good product, but on lighting alone, doesn't even begin to compete with Lutron's capabilities. Funnily enough, I have never had a single problem with a Lutron system.

You get what you pay for. If it was simply overpriced, no one would be buying it.

can you please expand on had problems