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I have been working last couple weeks with a SE spark right nice bloke who has an apprentice...Guess what HE is NOT allowed to use a knife at college ? HAS this world gone FKN mad ? So he can go off and join the Army or have Sex but he can't ring a bit of SWA ?...Just gonna nut the door !

J
 
Worked on a site once, and the all metal stanley knives were banned (live bars below), technically we were supposed to use ceramic bladed knives aswell, but they agreed to allow us plastic handled knives.

I , and a couple of lads got one from a pound type shop (as we needed them that day), on the cardboard packaging a warning:
Warning Not Suitable For Children Under 4 Years !
WTF ?:joker:
 
Worked on a site once, and the all metal stanley knives were banned (live bars below), technically we were supposed to use ceramic bladed knives aswell, but they agreed to allow us plastic handled knives.

I , and a couple of lads got one from a pound type shop (as we needed them that day), on the cardboard packaging a warning:
Warning Not Suitable For Children Under 4 Years !
WTF ?:joker:

They must breed em tough where those knives were made :)
 
Whats a Blue Book job mate never heard of that

J
Blue Book is the National Agreement used on the power generation sites. But Stanley knives are " unwelcome" on most commercial/industrial jobs, not just the Blue Book sites. And as to gloves there are more varieties than Heinz offered to you on most of the commercial and industrial sites.
 
Currently working on a large site , its a gloved site no knives ,no steps ,ladders etc but they're more than happy to let you work in temperatures you would'nt leave your dog out in as for all the extra PPE it actually made things worse as people were overheating, safety glasses steamed up so you can't see anything

Sounds safe does'nt it
its about time they taught people some judgment skills and common sense.

Also with all the health and safety these days has anyone noticed there are more idiots about than ever, its undoing Darwins theories to some degree

Ps I'm all for health and safety but it needs to be realistic
The comment before about gloves preventing the contraction of weils disease is daft as most sites will issue one pair of gloves most workers are not going to wash or replace them which means they are worn until they fall apart ,so you could actually be wearing gloves all the time which may be carrying these germs, surely this would increase the chances of catching something nasty
I fail to see how any knife can be a safety knife, if it can cut material it can cut you, I bought an auto retracting stanley knife and its more dangerous to the user than a normal one

I like many people have possessed knives from being a youngster
ok you get a few cuts but you learn
nowadays its seen as irresponsible to have a knife for any reason especially youngsters (asides from the carrying as a weapon)
My lads 6 and 7 have been up the local woods with me where they have been told how to handle these tools which is what they are, and they now know how to be carefull and think before they do something , the reaction from people passing by is mixed from blokes remembering their youth to outright disgust by some people who say I'm teaching them to use weapons, but I just stress they are tools primarily and it takes an idiot to turn it into a weapon and I'd bet that they cut themselves more often than someone with experience of a few nicks
Most young apprentices I've seen have never really used a knife before which I suspect is why they always seem to cut themselves, saying that they are not taught how to use any basic handtools anymore at college.
 
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Totally agree. We are dumbing down basic skills to the level that many can't now function unless a fancy machine, complete with safety guards, is available to do the work for them.
A stanley knife is one of the most useful bits of kit an electrician can own (I have owned a locking one for decades), yet it's made out to be tantamount to carrying a loaded shotgun!
 
This thread reminds me of the ludicrous rules that shops have when selling knives/blades...

A few years ago I bought an expensive set of VDE screwdrivers from a large DIY chain and they insisted on checking ID to make sure I was over 18...

At the same time I was buying a 4 foot spirit level which could easily have been used to batter someone to death, but that could be sold to a 5 year old...

As I said to them at the time, if I was buying a screwdriver to use as a weapon, it would hardly be a boxed set of the premium insulated type would it?!
 
This thread reminds me of the ludicrous rules that shops have when selling knives/blades...

A few years ago I bought an expensive set of VDE screwdrivers from a large DIY chain and they insisted on checking ID to make sure I was over 18...

At the same time I was buying a 4 foot spirit level which could easily have been used to batter someone to death, but that could be sold to a 5 year old...

As I said to them at the time, if I was buying a screwdriver to use as a weapon, it would hardly be a boxed set of the premium insulated type would it?!

You may be violent but very classy :)
 
I have prepared a small document to assist forum members on the law regarding carrying bladed articles, this should not be relied on as legal defence but as a guide.
 

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Production operatives use stanley knives at work for opening cardboard boxes and we issue spare blades from the maint dept, previous H&S guy made us hand out a warning memo ("warning, sharp blades" etc.) with each one, what a waste of paper. Luckily present H&S guy is more practical and saves wasting paper!.
HSE meets `green`then...
 
you can get done for any tools, I have heard of somebody getting lifted by passing plod at a burger van the other side of a site fence for having a round file in the pen compartment of his work trousers.....I have also been approached when walking down the street with a tool box....but they got to about 3 feet away and just turned and walked off....

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you can get done for any tools, I have heard of somebody getting lifted by passing plod at a burger van the other side of a site fence for having a round file in the pen compartment of his work trousers.....I have also been approached when walking down the street with a tool box....but they got to about 3 feet away and just turned and walked off....
 
This thread reminds me of the ludicrous rules that shops have when selling knives/blades...

A few years ago I bought an expensive set of VDE screwdrivers from a large DIY chain and they insisted on checking ID to make sure I was over 18...

At the same time I was buying a 4 foot spirit level which could easily have been used to batter someone to death, but that could be sold to a 5 year old...

As I said to them at the time, if I was buying a screwdriver to use as a weapon, it would hardly be a boxed set of the premium insulated type would it?!
I'd like to hear the 'reasoning' behind this idea that if you're over the age of 18 you're going to use a blade or tool for it's intended purpose, but anyone under the age of 18 is going to use it to stab someone. I expect it ticks some box for having done 'something' to help combat knife crime, but it seems to be stopping kids from learning how to use knives safely.
 

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