Apprenticeship Tips...

[sjohnson93]

I'm about to start my electrical apprenticeship a week on Monday. I'm very excited but also a tad nervous. Was just wondering if anybody has any tips etc for me to ensure I really make a good impression at the firm I'll be working for. Anything would be great! THANKS!

 

[Knobhead]

Best advice I can give, safety is the most important part of working with electrical equipment and still is 10 years later and always will be.
Don't manage risks - remove them.

Ten years on. Are you safe?

There's something I've found over the years.
The ones that spout safety waffle are the ones that have the accidents.
H&S is something in the back of your mind, if only people would recognise it.

 

[ipf]

Ten years on. Are you safe?

There's something I've found over the years.
The ones that spout safety waffle are the ones that have the accidents.
H&S is something in the back of your mind, if only people would recognise it.

Yep..indented.

 

[brookster]

Ten years on. Are you safe?

There's something I've found over the years.
The ones that spout safety waffle are the ones that have the accidents.
H&S is something in the back of your mind, if only people would recognise it.

Disagree, I'd rather have someone who knew what he was doing safely than someone who is over confident and more likely to kill themselves through being smart arse.
Safety is part of the job not apart from it, less people would die if they done this.

Name a few of these wafflers who have had accidents then or is that just a random claim because you don't like health and safety.

Safety procedures save likes, cutting corners costs lives.

A small question - your mate shouts it's dead and locked off, is it isolated?

 

[Knobhead]

Did I say I didn’t like H&S, I don’t think so.

H&S is something in the back of you’re mind. A sixth sense that you develop, if you survive.

Tell me in you vast array of experience where you excel in safety?

 

[ipf]

Disagree, I'd rather have someone who knew what he was doing safely than someone who is over confident and more likely to kill themselves through being smart arse.
Safety is part of the job not apart from it, less people would die if they done this.

Name a few of these wafflers who have had accidents then or is that just a random claim because you don't like health and safety.

Safety procedures save likes, cutting corners costs lives.

A small question - your mate shouts it's dead and locked off, is it isolated?

Most of the 'wafflers' haven't the faintest idea about life on the tools, simply because they have no experience of it.
They spend most of their time watching some goggle box with another training lecture running or arranging another seminar or course that can make them so much per attendee per half day. More to do with economy than H+S, imo.
Just another example of the Electrical Trainee course money makers.

 

[ipf]

Did I say I didn’t like H&S, I don’t think so.

H&S is something in the back of you’re mind. A sixth sense that you develop, if you survive.

Tell me in you vast array of experience where you excel in safety?

He didn't have the experience to spot your point, pal.

 

[brookster]

Did I say I didn’t like H&S, I don’t think so.

H&S is something in the back of you’re mind. A sixth sense that you develop, if you survive.

Tell me in you vast array of experience where you excel in safety?

Its not about excelling, I just think its important especially for youngsters. Accidents happen I'm not on about ladders ect but things like proving dead, locking off,keys and witnessing it yourself are some of the first things you should learn.
I don't want to get drawn into a slagging match but I do see safety as important.
Should the first thing you do not be to see how to do it safely?
Just the small things like, so the lad knows how to isolate correctly and not plate himself in the process that would be a good start in the sparky trade yes?

Did I say I didn’t like H&S, I don’t think so.

H&S is something in the back of you’re mind. A sixth sense that you develop, if you survive.

Tell me in you vast array of experience where you excel in safety?

The very thing that develops this 'sixth sense' (sorry I only have 5) is health and safety, where else you gonna learn it?
And for the if you survive comment really? what the hell does that mean its not a Terminator movie.

 

[Knobhead]

Before I retired I was an AP and then an SAP if you know what that is. It’s not something you take on lightly.
MV equipment requires respect and knowledge. Could you handle ensuring your work team is safe? Would you be willing to put you’re name on the work permit that other peoples lives depend on?
You want to know about safe isolation and lock off procedures?

 

[brookster]

Before I retired I was an AP and then an SAP if you know what that is. It’s not something you take on lightly.
MV equipment requires respect and knowledge. Could you handle ensuring your work team is safe? Would you be willing to put you’re name on the work permit that other peoples lives depend on?
You want to know about safe isolation and lock off procedures?

I was a CP so you outrank me, I took permits not signed them so it was my --- working on the gear not yours.
I've also heard about AP's switching main incomers to circuit earth so your grade means nothing.

 

[Knobhead]

Then respect to you Sir.

As a CP which industry, I’m not trying to trip you. I started in M&Q.

 

[brookster]

Then respect to you Sir.

As a CP which industry, I’m not trying to trip you. I started in M&Q.

High Voltage (11KV)

 

[Knobhead]

I was a CP so you outrank me, I took permits not signed them so it was my --- working on the gear not yours.
I've also heard about AP's switching main incomers to circuit earth so your grade means nothing.

Touché

 

[brookster]

Previous work defines how I look at safety, I think it's healthy most people over 40 don't like the culture but I was brought up with it. Part of the job now guys and it's not going anywhere embrace it .

 

[Knobhead]

High Voltage (11KV)

33KV but under direct instruction from the board area control.

Our system was old, to close the 33KV breakers needed two signals. One from our intake substation and one from the area control.

We had four 20MVA 33/11KV transformers.

 

[brookster]

33KV but under direct instruction from the board area control.

Our system was old, to close the 33KV breakers needed two signals. One from our intake substation and one from the area control.

We had four 20MVA 33/11KV transformers.

I worked in on a large military installation and various MOD sites on MVA gens, VMV, Brush, MVA and KVA trannys 33/11 11/415, 6.6@60hz, MCGG, Vips, frequency changers, VCB,OCB,SF6 and various RMU's and a bunch of other related stuffs.
Working in Oil sector now.